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I would say that an angel is present within the vessel, not outside controlling the person, for a few reasons. The [[Angel Sword]] kills them, and if they were not within the vessel, stabbing the vessel would not have the same effect. Alastair, using a chant, tries to send Castiel "back to Heaven". Zachariah complained about "popping down into one of these smelly things", with regard to his vessel. And [[Holy Oil]] can contain an angel in a vessel, so the angel must actually be within the circle, not acting from a distance. As far as the size issue, I would suggest that the angels can fit wherever they choose to do so. Or they may be one thing in Heaven and another thing on Earth. Even the term 'physical' may not be that applicable, because it implies that which exists in the three dimensions which humans perceive. Angels are entirely other, so there is no knowing what rules actually apply. When did we see Lucifer's true form? I don't recall having seen any angel's appearance outside of a vessel.
 
Also, I have been looking at Hell. I think the sentences under the Characteristics heading could use some reordering. There are some descriptions of specific beings, like Samhain and the Whore of Babylon, that are repeated in the Escape from Hell section below. I think they are more useful in the second section. Actually, do we know that the Whore of Babylon was in Hell? I only remember Castiel saying "she rises" when Lucifer is on Earth. The discussion of Hell's leadership is scattered over several sentences, and I think they could be made into one paragraph. There is another sentence that says hellhounds escort human souls to Hell. While hellhounds kill the damned at the end of their deals, it seems as though reapers are the ones that actually escort souls. I see a few other things that I would like to modify. When you are finished with you editing, would you mind letting me know? I will put in my suggestions and you can review them. --[[User:MisterGlass|MisterGlass]] 02:03, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Hmmm, interesting question. I hadn't thought about it, but I would speculate that just as Hell and Heaven seem to be on different planes of existence, Death's box existed outside the dimension of Earth. I doubt that it was part of Hell or Heaven, as Death had no particular allegiance. And it appears that the cage could be opened at any place of great carnage, so he may not have been confined in one earthly location. That may just have been Bobby's way of expressing the severity of the situation. He does like colorful wording. --[[User:MisterGlass|MisterGlass]] 02:46, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
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