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==Read This First==
To all users of Supernatural Wiki: I would greatly appreciate it if all the users of this Community database would post their comments under the heading with their name and if there isn't one then please start a heading on this page with your username then post your comments under your heading.
==Comments==
===[[User:MisterGlass|MisterGlass]]===
Hey there. I didn't get a chance to see the episode so I had to wait until it got posted. It's hard to judge the strength of angels against monsters because until this season there hasn't really been any interaction between them. Lucifer took out the pagan gods, and Michael was his match, so maybe one of them would have a chance against Eve. But I don't know. Something had to have sent her to Purgatory...it would be interesting to know what. --[[User:MisterGlass|MisterGlass]] 01:28, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
 
Regarding the addition of the ability "healing factor" to the Angel Lore page: the healing of vessels is already listed under the "healing" ability. The specific examples you added could be put under the "healing" ability as part of the vessel bullet point, and the "healing factor" ability could be eliminated. --[[User:MisterGlass|MisterGlass]] 16:23, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 
I changed it because while the weapons are a great help, Supernatural is often not that straightforward. When Castiel says the "Whoever holds the weapons wins the war", he is saying what he believes to be true. Characters, Cas included, have been wrong before. Sam thought Ruby was helping him, and that killing Lilith would prevent the Apocalypse. Cas, Dean, and Sam all thought the Colt would kill Lucifer. Gabriel thought Lucifer was unaware of the role the Horsemen's rings could serve in trapping him, but he did know. Twists have always been a hallmark of Supernatural. Even if the weapons can turn the tide, there is no guarantee that they will not be stolen from Castiel, or used against him by one of his own. Balthazar seemed to foreshadow this when he said, "Now you have your sword, try not to die on it." I think it is too soon to say that having the weapons really makes winning 'likely'. --[[User:MisterGlass|MisterGlass]] 15:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 
Gender is a tough issue with beings that are naturally disembodied. I would agree with you that Raphael is a masculine entity just as Anna is a feminine entity. I am on the fence about the pronoun, though, because referring to Raphael as a she helps to distinguish the existence of a new vessel. Both 'he' and 'she' are currently being used in articles about the episode. This may be an issue that gets decided by the show, come to think of it. If Sam and Dean refer to Raphael as a 'him' or a 'her' once they are accustomed to the new vessel, then it'll be canon. --[[User:MisterGlass|MisterGlass]] 01:50, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 
Hello again. I have nothing new to add on the issue of the horsemen's rings, and probably will not until Death's next appearance, which I assume will be later this season. As far as pages that need updated right now, I haven't had a chance to look in depth, but I think some episode entries need spell checked. Table of Death made need the latest episode added. Episode 15 had its good moments, but it is not my favorite. I feel that The Monster at the End of This Book and The Real Ghostbusters were better. I disliked the depiction of the 'real' world. There is something about Sam and Dean invading the lives of real people that makes me uncomfortable. And seeing some of those real people killed, even in a satire, made it worse. Misha's death in particular was disturbing. --[[User:MisterGlass|MisterGlass]] 00:53, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 
It is possible that the rings are meant to represent the 'weapons' of the horsemen, and that Death's weapon is an addition to what he is, and does not take away from the completeness of the entity. We may hear more in time from the writers about what they intended; after all, there are presumably three more rings buried on Bobby's property. --[[User:MisterGlass|MisterGlass]] 15:18, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
Actually, the paragraph says "The show replaces the biblical horseman Conquest with Pestilence", and then briefly describes Conquest, War, Famine, and Death as they appear in the Bible, so I maintain that the content of the two paragraphs is very similar, to the point of being repetitive. --[[User:MisterGlass|MisterGlass]] 02:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 
Hello Anderson54! I see you added another paragraph to the Four Horsemen page under lore. It seems to repeat information present at the end of the other lore paragraph. --[[User:MisterGlass|MisterGlass]] 02:31, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 
I suppose resurrecting Cain and Abel would have been possible, but it might have been a major disruption to the natural order. The resurrections of both Dean and Adam leveled trees, and they had been dead a comparatively short amount of time. If, as Death said, Dean's existence is an affront to the natural order, surely resurrecting two beings that have been away from Earth for thousands of years would be worse. Additionally, Sam was already primed to serve as a vessel because of the demon blood he received on his sixth month birthday. And there is something to be said for having a vessel that is familiar with the time and place in which the Apocalypse occurred. Further, there is no knowing what Cain and Abel are now. Cain killed his brother; does that mean he went to Hell? If so, surely he of all beings would be a demon, and probably an unlikely subject to consent to serve as a vessel. Neither of them would feel much connection to modern humanity. --[[User:MisterGlass|MisterGlass]] 01:24, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
hey thanks so much so reverting the vandalism done by Temperance. I have blocked their account and prevented them from creating a new account. Thanks for all your work on the Wiki. We are not taking on anyone else to the Admin team at present, but we really appreciate all your input. And please feel free to make any suggestions about things you think the Wiki needs to me at admin@supernaturalwiki.com --[[User:Missyjack|Missyjack]]
I think the topic of Angelic Possession is adequately covered under the [[Vessels]] page. I think the word possession is not quite appropriate to the angelic situation also as it requires content of the vessel, which demonic possession obviously doesn't. Cheers --[[User:Missyjack|Missyjack]]
Sera G did mention in an interview that Death might come back...which would be awesome! --[[User:Missyjack|Missyjack]]
So I don't think the list provides readers with useful information. What I think would helpful would be to replace this with a list of other pages relating to manifestation such as:
[[Possession]], [[Vessel]], [[Angel Banishing Sigil]], [{Exorcism]], [[Binding Link]], [[Rituale Romanum]], [[Devil's Trap trap (symbol)]] and a note on how they relate to manifestation. This is a collection of information someone might find useful to have drawn together.
In future, for pages like this please run the idea past me first so we can refine the idea before you work on the page. New pages really need to be a source of new and useful information. At this point in the Wiki's development, we want to avoid having pages which duplicate similar information as it makes it a chore to update them all whenever there is new canon and more difficult to ensure consistency across them all.
We are currently upgrading our spam bot protection, unfortunately its inevitable with a site that gets high traffic. I reverted the page Life and death to Dead...or are they" its original title. Please don't change the name of established pages. You can ask me if you think a page really needs renaming. --[[User:Missyjack|Missyjack]] 20:31, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for erasing those pages. I do appreciate your work on the Wiki. I'm afraid sometimes I am rushing - like now on my way to work - and forget my manners . --[[User:Missyjack|Missyjack]] 21:22, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 
Thanks for the heads up on the spam. We did install additional spam blocker software, but it obviously hasn't slowed things much. We are getting some additional tech advice and hope to get it sorted soon. [[User:Missyjack|Missyjack]] 13:13, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 
Hi - Just to let you know we are still working to get the spam stoppped, unfortunately they seem to be getting apst the software we've installed. I will be deleting the page "Omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent" because it is very vague and speculative. I will leave it there for a day in case you want to retrieve any of the text to use on the page for [{God]]. Hope you enhjoyed the return of the new episodes this week! cheers --[[User:Missyjack|Missyjack]] 20:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 
Loved this week's episode. it was brilliant to see the contrast between Sam with and without his soul - and what a cliffhanger. Re: Gabriel I don't think we will see Gabriel again. I ahven't seen any rumours or spoilers about it. But anything is possible in Supernatural! --[[User:Missyjack|Missyjack]] 01:22, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
I haven't seen anything from the writers saying they will use Raphael to heal Sam's soul. They could or I suppose it could also be healed by God or even by Mother. It might depend whether this is the last season or not. Maybe it won't be healed. --[[User:Missyjack|Missyjack]] 01:35, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 
Hi - can you please be careful when editing pages where the reference template has been used - if you delete references in the text it can muck up the reference template at the end of the page. Have a look at one of the pages where the template is used, and you'll see how the citations are coded in the text. It would be great if you could use the format as it makes the text flow much better. Otherwise please avoid deleting existing references when you edit text. Thanks --[[User:Missyjack|Missyjack]] 21:12, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Hey there - have created [[Reality Warping]] for documenting the things you mentioned. Thanks! --[[User:Missyjack|Missyjack]] 22:03, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Just to let you know that the Supernatural Wiki has been nominated for an award at SFX (more details on our home page). We are up against some famous fan sites like Leaky Cauldron and The One Ring. This is a testament to all the great contrinuters like yourself who make the site so awesome. You can [http://www.sfx.co.uk/2011/03/16/the-sfx-blog-awards/6/ vote here] - please spread the word! [[User:Missyjack|Missyjack]]
===[[User:Rod12|Rod12]]===
Hi Anderson54 thanks for letting me know about the issue regarding creating those pages idea I had I wasn't sure if we were doing them or not since you never got back to me the first time I asked but now that you did thanks for letting me know about the overall issue. As for the soon to arrival of the Angels Rachel and The Hitman I'm excited for both of them to come onto the show but hopefully they give The Hitman a name besides just The Angel Hitman. As for Raphael I'm excited that he is returning but I'm curious to see how the issue of his old vessel and his new vessel are dealt with. The reason being I hope his old vessel is being repaired in some way because it would be awsome to see the return of [[Demore Barnes]] as Raphael because he did an awsome job. But also is this new vessel going to be in just one episode or throughout the rest of the 2nd Half of the season is Raphael going to have a new different vessel or is it going to be the vessel for the rest of the 2nd Half of the season since we know Raphael is going to be a key character for the rest of the 2nd Half of the season. Oh well talk to you later.
 
From [[User:Rod12|Rod12]]
 
Hi Anderson54 no problem with the issue about Archangels and Elements Theory and letting [[User:EllieMurasaki]] I was happy to do it. When I moved your theory from the main Archangel Page to its talk page within a few minutes I noticed [[User:EllieMurasaki]] reply to your theory but since I was the one that recently edited both pages I knew she was going to think that was own theory and I wanted to make sure she knew that was not true and you were the main creator of that theory and you yourself should be given full and complete credit for that theory and not me. As for episode 13 I enjoyed it was awsome to see the show introduce a new supernatural creature and it was awsome to see the entire scene at the end and see a scene of Sam inside the Cage in hell. Oh and before I forget do you still want to work on those pages I suggested in my previous message below that we should create for the site. Also you never told me your thoughts on the news of Raphael returning in episode 15 and the other related angel news I told you about on the previous message below I'm curious to what you think about it. Oh well talk to you later once again happy to help you out with that Archangel and Elements Theory Issue.
 
From [[User:Rod12|Rod12]]
 
Hi Anderson54 nice to here from you again all is well from my end how about you. As for the return of Supernatural I enjoyed that I was so happy to see the show return and it was nice to see the episode deliever alot of new and old stuff in one singe episode. My favorite new stuff was more with Purgatory, The Dragons and Mother of All. My favorite old stuff of the episode was mainly the return of the class rock music and The Road so Far Sequence. But generally overall I enjoyed the entire episode. As for what we should do next to be honest I'm not real sure because I kind of had to stop doing my work with the human character pages I was working on because it seemed like the formate I was doing wasn't what some people wanted which I'm ok with but could of used a earlier heads up before I did all the editing work I did before I was asked to stop which would of been nice. But thats a whole separte issue entirely which is another message for another day. What we could do maybe is create pages for Natural Order, Dreamworld, Time Travel and Alternate Univere type pages. But between both you and me we have covered alot we did alot on Angels, Horseman, Demons, Creatures and non Supernatural Characters, Locations, Weapons and everything else in between. If you have any ideas let me know but I got say those pages I mentioned that we should create show like a fun idea. Oh and on side note if haven't already heard Archangel Raphael is coming back in Episode 15 but in a new vessel I was just curious what you think of the news along with the two news angels as well Rachel Castiel's 2nd in Command and a Angel Hitman sent by Raphael. Oh well talk to you later.
 
From [[User:Rod12|Rod12]]
Hi Anderson54 thanks for the kind words that was very nice of you. Also you do an awsome job on the site here each and everyday and its nice to see. Its also kind of ironic because alot of the pages you work on mainly are also some of my favorite Supernatural pages like the Archangels for excample. So its cool to see a fellow Supernatural fan work and try to improve some of the pages I also enjoy. I did have an idea I wanted to talk to you about how to improve the Archangel pages in a way they kind or have a similar type of format/template to all the pages so they all look similar to one another. If your interest in the idea let me know and I'll be happy to explain it more. Oh well talk you later and tommorrows Supernatural Episode should be awsome can't wait.
From [[User:Rod12|Rod12]]
Hi Anderson54 I have the picture site I use for Supernatural Images I'm just going over all of the images to find to best ones for each of the four horseman and trying to find out who needs it the most improvement with pictures as of right now it is mainly [[War]], [[Famine]] and [[Pestilance]]. [[Death]] I'll do last. But as of right now thats the best update I have for you. Oh well talk to you later.
From [[User:Rod12|Rod12]]
=== [[User:Staxeon|Staxeon]] ===
 
Sure I can help with the references, but can you give me a list of what characters or pages need a look, that way I'm not wasting time searching or possibly miss/skip one. Thanks! --[[User:Staxeon|Staxeon]] 21:27, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Re: Four Horsemen, you're right, that page needs work. Its not a "smooth" read and has alot of duplicate information on the same page. The page is for the Four Horsemen, I think the focus should be their relation as a group and their role together in the apocalypse, they each have their own separate pages for individual detailed info, especially Death.
Regarding the Castiel article and episodes; both lists were identical prior to my edit. It was literally one entire screen of duplicate information. Right side had the list in the character box, left side had the same list in the content box. Yes the links on the right would take you to the seperate episode pages, but if you click a content link on the left it takes you down the episode section with (again) a link to the episode page. We should be trying to present information in a thorough but streamlined and concise manner, being redundant makes the page look unorganized and "scatterbrained" (for lack of better term). --[[User:Staxeon|Staxeon]] 23:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 
===EllieMurasaki===
We have intelligent spambots. By which I mean, the author of one of the spam pages you blanked put more crap on it. Partly because of that, partly because Missyjack's pretty quick with the delete button, I don't think blanking the pages is a constructive use of time. —[[User:EllieMurasaki|EllieMurasaki]] 18:44, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 
What did I say that was rude? —[[User:EllieMurasaki|EllieMurasaki]] 13:20, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 
===[[User:AparnaBrielle|AparnaBrielle]]===
Hi there - I was asked by Jules to create a floor plan to supplement that article, or I would not have oherwise. Cheers! [[User:AparnaBrielle|AparnaBrielle]] 22:41, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 
Sorry, didn't mean to post that three times - I blame my mobile web. Also, as for contributor roles and page creation, I'd edited at Wikipedia for quite a few years as a principal editor, so I do know how those work :) Until next time! [[User:AparnaBrielle|AparnaBrielle]] 23:34, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 
Yes, I've seen every episode - in fact, I own every season! I'm not entirely sure, to be honest. There are so many different routes they could have taken with him. I mean, I know the wiki and various fans have said that it's implied he's gone to Australia, and that may very well be the case, but I don't think he would have done so immediately. He'd only just grasped the basic handle of his powers; I feel as though transporting himself would have been far too overwhelming a thought for him. So, either he was taken by someone, or, if he did transport himself somewhere, he might have decided to start looking for others like him - only ''maybe''. Again, it's a problem because of his age. It's a really "up in the air" kind of thing, with me - but I don't think it had anything to do with humans. [[User:AparnaBrielle|AparnaBrielle]] 01:53, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 
===[[User:Crossroadsdemon|Crossroadsdemon]]===
I see you've been editing the Season DVD pages lately. How do you feel about putting Blu-ray information on those pages? Can we change the page names to "Season 4 DVD and Blu-ray," etc.? I have all the seasons on Blu-ray except for Season 2, which doesn't come out until this June for some bizarro reason, and I was thinking about scanning all the pages of the inserts and putting them on the Wiki if anyone else thought it was worthwhile. Well, let me know your thoughts... [[User:Crossroadsdemon|Ashley]] 16:34, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 
Ah- no, I was just wondering if there was a way to change the page titles from "Season 1 DVD" -> "Season 1 DVD & Blu-ray" but I think we're fine to leave it as is and just add a "Blu-ray" heading under the "Versions" heading on each page. [[User:Crossroadsdemon|Ashley]] 16:42, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be spelled "Blu-ray" and not "Blue-ray"? [[User:Crossroadsdemon|Ashley]] 16:46, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
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