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| − | When ''Supernatural'' started, | + | When ''Supernatural'' started, comparisons to the successful Joss Whedon shows ''[http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Buffyverse_Wiki Buffy the Vampire Slayer]'' and ''[http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Angel_%28series%29 Angel]'' were inevitable. Like them, ''Supernatural'' featured ordinary people fighting the supernatural. It was also airing on [[The WB]] where ''Buffy'' had started and ''Angel'' had aired until it finished in 2003. An early review of the "Pilot" described ''Supernatural'' as "[http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050704b.phpnew X-Files meets the OC, meets Buffy type show from the WB.]" |
''Supernatural'' certainly attracted many viewers who had also been fans of the Whedon show. This can particularly be seen in Supernatural/Buffy crossover fanworks, like the [[Het|pairing]] of Dean with the rogue slayer [http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Faith Faith.] | ''Supernatural'' certainly attracted many viewers who had also been fans of the Whedon show. This can particularly be seen in Supernatural/Buffy crossover fanworks, like the [[Het|pairing]] of Dean with the rogue slayer [http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Faith Faith.] | ||
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''Buffy'' fandom invented the term [[Jossed]] - to be jossed is to have fan theories or events in [[:Category:Fanfiction|Fanfic]] be invalidated by new canon in the show. By contrast [[Kripked]] was a term coined in ''Supernatural'' fandom to refer to having fan theories supported by canon. See also [[Fan Fic Cliches]]. | ''Buffy'' fandom invented the term [[Jossed]] - to be jossed is to have fan theories or events in [[:Category:Fanfiction|Fanfic]] be invalidated by new canon in the show. By contrast [[Kripked]] was a term coined in ''Supernatural'' fandom to refer to having fan theories supported by canon. See also [[Fan Fic Cliches]]. | ||
| − | The most significant crossover between the series is [[Ben Edlund]]. Ben started working with Joss on ''[http://firefly.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Firefly]'' before moving to ''Angel'' for the last couple of seasons. He wrote and directed the Hugo nominated episode "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smile_Time Smile Time]" aka the one where Angel gets turned into a puppet. [[Keith R.A. DeCandido]] has written tie-in novels | + | The most significant crossover between the series is [[Ben Edlund]]. Ben started working with Joss on ''[http://firefly.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Firefly]'' before moving to ''Angel'' for the last couple of seasons. He wrote and directed the Hugo-nominated episode "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smile_Time Smile Time]," aka the one where Angel gets turned into a puppet. [[Keith R.A. DeCandido]] has written tie-in novels for both ''Supernatural'' and ''Buffy''. |
| − | ''Supernatural'' is | + | ''Supernatural'' is set in in a world where Buffy exists as a TV show, as we find out when [[Ghostfacers|Ghostfacer]] [[Ed Zeddmore]] references it in [[1.17 Hell House]]. |
| − | Many actors from ''Buffy'' and ''Angel'' have appeared on ''Supernatural'' -- the first were Amy Acker who appeared in [[1.03 Dead in the Water]] and Julie Benz was in [[1.12 Faith]]. Following Amber Benson's appearance as [[Lenore]] in 2007, EP [[Bob Singer]] said "I thought Buffy had a great cast, and we used Amber Benson. I’d like to get Spike [James Marsters] on our show. I never thought I would particularly like Buffy, but my wife got me hooked on it, and I was hooked on him. Plus, that series was so well written. It was so smart." ([http://www.whedon.info/Supernatural-producer-loves-Buffy.html Source]) | + | [https://www.yahoo.com/tv/buffy-vampire-slayer-20th-anniversary-slideshow-wp-141515881.html Eric Kripke] said of Buffy: |
| + | : I loved ‘Hush’ and ‘Once More, With Feeling,’ but overall, Buffy really taught me about effectively using metaphor in genre. For Buffy, it was ‘high school is hell (literally),’ and Joss Whedon did such a masterful job of grounding his horror and fantasy concepts in this notion, and ultimately telling allegories about high school, which turned what could’ve been B-Movie material into an all-time classic. I used that same philosophy on my run of Supernatural, with the mantra ‘family is hell (literally),’ and always grounded my horror episodes around the notion of families, to the show’s benefit. So thanks, Joss Whedon. I owe you a beer. (Credit: The WB) | ||
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| + | Many actors from ''Buffy'' and ''Angel'' have appeared on ''Supernatural'' -- the first were Amy Acker, who appeared in [[1.03 Dead in the Water]], and Julie Benz, who was in [[1.12 Faith]]. Following Amber Benson's appearance as [[Lenore]] in 2007, EP [[Bob Singer]] said "I thought Buffy had a great cast, and we used Amber Benson. I’d like to get Spike [James Marsters] on our show. I never thought I would particularly like Buffy, but my wife got me hooked on it, and I was hooked on him. Plus, that series was so well written. It was so smart." ([http://www.whedon.info/Supernatural-producer-loves-Buffy.html Source]) Bob got his wish when James Marsters appeared with Charisma Carpenter in the episode [[7.05 Shut Up, Dr. Phil]]. | ||
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| [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/ Amber Benson] | | [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/ Amber Benson] | ||
| [[Lenore]] | | [[Lenore]] | ||
| − | | Tara | + | | Tara Maclay |
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer | | Buffy the Vampire Slayer | ||
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| [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0835426/ Bradley Stryker] | | [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0835426/ Bradley Stryker] | ||
| − | | [[Ted]] and | + | | [[Ted]] and Tony |
| Talky Meat | | Talky Meat | ||
| Angel | | Angel | ||
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| [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0748270/ John Rubenstein] | | [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0748270/ John Rubenstein] | ||
| − | | [[Charlie | + | | [[Charlie the Magician]] |
| Linwood Murrow | | Linwood Murrow | ||
| Angel | | Angel | ||
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| [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0687443/ Jack Plotnick] | | [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0687443/ Jack Plotnick] | ||
| − | | [[Ian]] | + | | [[Ian Johnston]] |
| Deputy Mayor Allan Finch | | Deputy Mayor Allan Finch | ||
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer | | Buffy the Vampire Slayer | ||
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| [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004806/ Charisma Carpenter] | | [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004806/ Charisma Carpenter] | ||
| [[Maggie Stark]] | | [[Maggie Stark]] | ||
| − | | Cordelia Chase | + | | Cordelia Chase/Prima Ballerina/Jasmine |
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel | | Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel | ||
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| [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551346/ James Marsters] | | [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551346/ James Marsters] | ||
| [[Don Stark]] | | [[Don Stark]] | ||
| − | | Spike | + | | Spike/The First Evil |
| Buffy the Vampire Slayerand Angel | | Buffy the Vampire Slayerand Angel | ||
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| [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0342881/ Harry Groener] | | [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0342881/ Harry Groener] | ||
| [[Professor Morrison]] | | [[Professor Morrison]] | ||
| − | | Mayor Richard Wilkins | + | | Mayor Richard Wilkins/The First Evil |
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer | | Buffy the Vampire Slayer | ||
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| Daniel Holtz | | Daniel Holtz | ||
| Angel | | Angel | ||
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| + | [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0427869/ David Haydn-Jones] | ||
| + | | [[Arthur Ketch]] | ||
| + | | Hobson | ||
| + | | Buffy the Vampire Slayer | ||
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Revision as of 14:39, 6 January 2020
Okay, WWBD. What would Buffy do? Huh?
When Supernatural started, comparisons to the successful Joss Whedon shows Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel were inevitable. Like them, Supernatural featured ordinary people fighting the supernatural. It was also airing on The WB where Buffy had started and Angel had aired until it finished in 2003. An early review of the "Pilot" described Supernatural as "X-Files meets the OC, meets Buffy type show from the WB."
Supernatural certainly attracted many viewers who had also been fans of the Whedon show. This can particularly be seen in Supernatural/Buffy crossover fanworks, like the pairing of Dean with the rogue slayer Faith.
Buffy fandom invented the term Jossed - to be jossed is to have fan theories or events in Fanfic be invalidated by new canon in the show. By contrast Kripked was a term coined in Supernatural fandom to refer to having fan theories supported by canon. See also Fan Fic Cliches.
The most significant crossover between the series is Ben Edlund. Ben started working with Joss on Firefly before moving to Angel for the last couple of seasons. He wrote and directed the Hugo-nominated episode "Smile Time," aka the one where Angel gets turned into a puppet. Keith R.A. DeCandido has written tie-in novels for both Supernatural and Buffy.
Supernatural is set in in a world where Buffy exists as a TV show, as we find out when Ghostfacer Ed Zeddmore references it in 1.17 Hell House.
Eric Kripke said of Buffy:
- I loved ‘Hush’ and ‘Once More, With Feeling,’ but overall, Buffy really taught me about effectively using metaphor in genre. For Buffy, it was ‘high school is hell (literally),’ and Joss Whedon did such a masterful job of grounding his horror and fantasy concepts in this notion, and ultimately telling allegories about high school, which turned what could’ve been B-Movie material into an all-time classic. I used that same philosophy on my run of Supernatural, with the mantra ‘family is hell (literally),’ and always grounded my horror episodes around the notion of families, to the show’s benefit. So thanks, Joss Whedon. I owe you a beer. (Credit: The WB)
Many actors from Buffy and Angel have appeared on Supernatural -- the first were Amy Acker, who appeared in 1.03 Dead in the Water, and Julie Benz, who was in 1.12 Faith. Following Amber Benson's appearance as Lenore in 2007, EP Bob Singer said "I thought Buffy had a great cast, and we used Amber Benson. I’d like to get Spike [James Marsters] on our show. I never thought I would particularly like Buffy, but my wife got me hooked on it, and I was hooked on him. Plus, that series was so well written. It was so smart." (Source) Bob got his wish when James Marsters appeared with Charisma Carpenter in the episode 7.05 Shut Up, Dr. Phil.
Other Whedon alumni who have appeared on Supernatural include:
| Actor/Actress | Role on Supernatural | Role in Whedonverse | Whedonverse Show |
| Jeffrey Dean Morgan | John Winchester | Sam Ryan | Angel |
| Robert Peters | Deputy Hein | Arney | Angel |
| Amy Acker | Andrea Barr | Winifred Burkle / Illyria | Angel |
| Kristin Richardson | Jenny | Tracy Bellows | Angel |
| Julie Benz | Layla Rourke | Darla | Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel |
| Megalyn Echikunwoke | Cassie Robinson | Vaughne | Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
| Ridge Canipe | Young Dean Winchester | Tommy | Angel |
| Chad Lindberg | Ash | David Kirby | Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
| Amber Benson | Lenore | Tara Maclay | Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
| Annie Wersching | Susan Thompson | Margaret | Angel |
| David Monahan | Father Thomas Gregory | Garrett | Angel |
| Jeff Kober | Randall | Zachary Kralik and Rack | Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
| Aldis Hodge | Jake Talley | Masked Teen | Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
| Mercedes McNab | Lucy | Harmony Kendall | Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel |
| Aimee Garcia | Nancy Fitzgerald | Cynthia York | Angel |
| Brittany Ishibashi | Maggie Zeddmore | Vivian | Angel |
| Todd Stashwick | Dracula | Vocah (Angel) and M'Fashnik Demon (Buffy) | Angel and Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
| Jack Conley | Sheriff Al Britton | Gib Cain (Buffy) and Sahjhan (Angel) | Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel |
| David Mattey | Luther Garland | Behemoth Lorne | Angel |
| Mark Rolston | Alastair | Boone | Angel |
| Bradley Stryker | Ted and Tony | Talky Meat | Angel |
| John Rubenstein | Charlie the Magician | Linwood Murrow | Angel |
| Rob Benedict | Chuck Shurley | Jape | Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
| Jack Plotnick | Ian Johnston | Deputy Mayor Allan Finch | Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
| Charisma Carpenter | Maggie Stark | Cordelia Chase/Prima Ballerina/Jasmine | Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel |
| James Marsters | Don Stark | Spike/The First Evil | Buffy the Vampire Slayerand Angel |
| Henri Lubatti | Bobby's Reaper | Dealer Vampire | Angel |
| Harry Groener | Professor Morrison | Mayor Richard Wilkins/The First Evil | Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
| Bryan Cuprill | George | Roy | Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
| Felicia Day | Charlene Bradbury | Vi | Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
| Tamara Braun | Cindy Cassity | Tara | Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
| Treva Etienne | Tamiel | Emil | Angel |
| Brigid Brannagh | Rita Johnson | Virginia Bryce | Angel |
| Keith Szarabajka | Donatello Redfield | Daniel Holtz | Angel |
| Arthur Ketch | Hobson | Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
