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When Supernatural started, comparison to the successful Joss Whedon shows [http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Buffyverse_Wiki Buffy] and [http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Angel_%28series%29 Angel] were inevitable. Like them, Supernatural featured ordinary people fighting the Supernatural, and it also aired on [[The WB]] where Buffy had started and Angel had aired until it finished in 2003. An early review of the Pilot described Supernatural as "new X-Files meets the OC, meets Buffy type show from the WB" [http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050704b.php Source]  (yeah we have no idea where [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_O.C. The O.C] fits in either !)
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When ''Supernatural'' started, comparisons to the successful Joss Whedon shows ''[http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Buffyverse_Wiki Buffy the Vampire Slayer]'' and ''[http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Angel_%28series%29 Angel]'' were inevitable. Like them, ''Supernatural'' featured ordinary people fighting the supernatural. It  was also airing on [[The WB]] where ''Buffy'' had started and ''Angel'' had aired until it finished in 2003. An early review of the "Pilot" described ''Supernatural'' as "[http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050704b.phpnew X-Files meets the OC, meets Buffy type show from the WB.]"
  
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Supernatural is set in in a world where Buffy exists - as a TV show - as we find out when Ghostfacer [[Ed Zeddmore]] references it in [[1.17 Hell House]].
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''Supernatural'' certainly attracted many viewers who had also been fans of the Whedon show. This can particularly be seen in Supernatural/Buffy crossover fanworks, like the [[Het|pairing]] of Dean with the rogue slayer [http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Faith Faith.]  
  
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Supernatural certainly attracted many viewers who had also been fans of the Whedon show. This can particularly be seen in Supernatural/Buffy [[Crossover]] crossover fanworks. The [[Het|pairing]] of Dean with the rogue slayer [http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Faith Faith].  
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''Buffy'' fandom invented the term [[Jossed]] - to be jossed is to have fan theories or events in [[:Category:Fanfiction|Fanfic]] be invalidated by new canon in the show. By contrast [[Kripked]] was a term coined in ''Supernatural'' fandom to refer to having fan theories supported by canon. See also [[Fan Fic Cliches]].
  
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Buffy fandom invented the term [[Jossed]] - to be jossed is to have fan theories or events in [[:Category:Fanfiction|Fanfic]] be invalidated by new canon in the Show. By contrast [[Kripked]] was a term coined in Supernatural fandom to refer to having fan theories supported by canon. See also [[Fan Fic Cliches]] 
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The most significant  crossover between the series is [[Ben Edlund]]. Ben started working with Joss on ''[http://firefly.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Firefly]'' before moving to ''Angel'' for the last couple of seasons. He wrote and directed the Hugo-nominated episode "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smile_Time Smile Time]," aka the one where Angel gets turned into a puppet. [[Keith R.A. DeCandido]] has written tie-in novels for both ''Supernatural'' and ''Buffy''.
  
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The most significant  crossover between the series is [[Ben Edlund]]. Ben started working with Joss on [http://firefly.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Firefly] before moving to Angel for the last couple of seasons. He wrote and directed the Hugo nominated episode [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smile_Time Smile Time] aka the one where Angel gets turned into a puppet.
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''Supernatural'' is set in in a world where Buffy exists as a TV show, as we find out when [[Ghostfacers|Ghostfacer]] [[Ed Zeddmore]] references it in [[1.17 Hell House]].
  
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[[Keith R.A. DeCandido]] has written tie-in novels fro both Supernatural and Buffy.
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[https://www.yahoo.com/tv/buffy-vampire-slayer-20th-anniversary-slideshow-wp-141515881.html Eric Kripke] said of Buffy:
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: I  loved ‘Hush’ and ‘Once More, With Feeling,’ but overall, Buffy really taught me about effectively using metaphor in genre. For Buffy, it was ‘high school is hell (literally),’ and Joss Whedon did such a masterful job of grounding his horror and fantasy concepts in this notion, and ultimately telling allegories about high school, which turned what could’ve been B-Movie material into an all-time classic. I used that same philosophy on my run of Supernatural, with the mantra ‘family is hell (literally),’ and always grounded my horror episodes around the notion of families, to the show’s benefit. So thanks, Joss Whedon. I owe you a beer. (Credit: The WB)
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Many actors from Buffy and Angel have appeared on Supernatural - the first were Amy Acker who appeared in [[1.03 Dead in the Water]] and Julie Benz was in [[1.12 Faith]]. Following Amber Benson's appearance as [[Lenore]] in 2007, EP [[Bob Singer]] said "I thought Buffy had a great cast, and we used Amber Benson. I’d like to get Spike [James Marsters] on our show. I never thought I would particularly like Buffy, but my wife got me hooked on it, and I was hooked on him. Plus, that series was so well written. It was so smart." [http://www.whedon.info/Supernatural-producer-loves-Buffy.html Source]
 
  
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Many actors from ''Buffy'' and ''Angel'' have appeared on ''Supernatural'' -- the first were Amy Acker, who appeared in [[1.03 Dead in the Water]], and Julie Benz, who was in [[1.12 Faith]]. Following Amber Benson's appearance as [[Lenore]] in 2007, EP [[Bob Singer]] said "I thought Buffy had a great cast, and we used Amber Benson. I’d like to get Spike [James Marsters] on our show. I never thought I would particularly like Buffy, but my wife got me hooked on it, and I was hooked on him. Plus, that series was so well written. It was so smart." ([http://www.whedon.info/Supernatural-producer-loves-Buffy.html Source]) Bob got his wish when James Marsters appeared with Charisma Carpenter in the episode [[7.05 Shut Up, Dr. Phil]].
  
 
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Other Whedon alumni who have appeared on Supernatural are:
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Other Whedon alumni who have appeared on ''Supernatural'' include:
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{|  width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1" border="1" align="" summary=""  
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|      '''Character'''
 
 
| '''Actor/Actress'''
 
| '''Actor/Actress'''
 
| '''Role on Supernatural'''
 
| '''Role on Supernatural'''
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| '''Role in Whedonverse'''
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| '''Whedonverse Show'''
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|-
 +
| [[Jeffrey Dean Morgan]]
 +
|      [[John Winchester]]
 +
| Sam Ryan
 +
| Angel
 +
|-
 +
|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0676649/ Robert Peters]
 +
|      Deputy Hein
 +
|      Arney
 +
|      Angel
 
|-
 
|-
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| Tara in Buffy
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0009918/ Amy Acker]
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/ Amber Benson]
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|      [[Andrea Barr]]
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|      [[Lenore]]
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| Winifred Burkle / Illyria
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| Angel
 
|-
 
|-
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| Cordelia Chase in Buffy and Angel
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0932514/ Kristin Richardson]
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004806/ Charisma Carpenter]
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|      [[Jenny]]
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|      [[Maggie Stark]]
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|      Tracy Bellows
 +
| Angel
 
|-
 
|-
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| Spike in Buffy and Angel
 
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551346/ James Marsters]
 
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|      [[Don Stark]]
 
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|-
 
−
| Kaylee in Firefly
 
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0821612/ Jewel Staite]
 
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|      [[Amy Pond]]
 
−
|-
 
−
| M'Fashnik Demon
 
−
| [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0823693/ Todd Stashwick]
 
−
|      [[Lucy/Dracula/Shapeshifter|Dracula]]
 
−
|-
 
−
| Harmony Kendall in Buffy and Angel
 
−
| [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0573523/ Mercedes McNab]
 
−
|      [[Lucy]]
 
−
|-
 
−
| Winfred Burkle/Illyria in Angel
 
−
| [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0009918/ Amy Acker]
 
−
|      [[Andrea Barr]]
 
−
|-
 
−
|      Darla in Buffy and Angel
 
 
| [http://imdb.com/name/nm0004748/ Julie Benz]
 
| [http://imdb.com/name/nm0004748/ Julie Benz]
 
|      [[Layla Rourke]]
 
|      [[Layla Rourke]]
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|-
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|      Darla
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|      Badger in Firefly
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| Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel
−
| [[Mark Sheppard]]
 
−
|      [[Crowley]]
 
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|-
 
−
| Sam Ryan
 
−
| [[Jeffrey Dean Morgan]]
 
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|      [[John Winchester]]
 
 
|-
 
|-
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| Masked Teen
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|       [[Megalyn Echikunwoke]]
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| [[Aldis Hodge]]
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|      [[Cassie Robinson]]
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|      [[Jake Talley]]
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|      Vaughne
 +
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 
|-
 
|-
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| Tommy
 
 
| [[Ridge Canipe]]
 
| [[Ridge Canipe]]
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|      young [[Dean Winchester]]
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|      Young [[Dean Winchester]]
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| Tommy
 +
| Angel
 +
|-
 +
|      [[Chad Lindberg]]
 +
|      [[Ash]]
 +
|      David Kirby
 +
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 
|-
 
|-
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|      Jape
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/ Amber Benson]
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|      [[Rob Benedict]]
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|      [[Lenore]]
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|      [[Chuck Shurley]]
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| Tara Maclay
 +
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 +
|- 
 +
|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1156709/ Annie Wersching]
 +
|      [[Susan Thompson]]
 +
|      Margaret
 +
| Angel
 
|-
 
|-
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|      Rack
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0597521/ David Monahan]
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|      [[Father Thomas Gregory]]
 +
|      Garrett
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| Angel
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|-
 
|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0462116/ Jeff Kober]
 
|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0462116/ Jeff Kober]
 
|      [[Randall]]
 
|      [[Randall]]
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|      Zachary Kralik and Rack
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| Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 
|-
 
|-
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|      Deputy Mayor Allan Finch
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| [[Aldis Hodge]]
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0687443/ Jack Plotnick]
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|      [[Jake Talley]]
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|      [[Ian]]
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| Masked Teen
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| Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 +
|-
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| [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0573523/ Mercedes McNab]
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|      [[Lucy]]
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| Harmony Kendall
 +
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel
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|-
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0305083/ Aimee Garcia]
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|      [[Nancy Fitzgerald]]
 +
|      Cynthia York
 +
| Angel
 +
|-
 +
|      [[Brittany Ishibashi]]
 +
|      [[Maggie Zeddmore]]
 +
|      Vivian
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| Angel
 +
|-
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| [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0823693/ Todd Stashwick]
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|      [[Lucy/Dracula/Shapeshifter|Dracula]]
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| Vocah (Angel) and M'Fashnik Demon (Buffy)
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| Angel and Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 
|-
 
|-
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|      Gib Cain on Buffy and Sahjhan on Angel
 
 
|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0174780/ Jack Conley]
 
|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0174780/ Jack Conley]
 
|      [[Sheriff Al Britton]]
 
|      [[Sheriff Al Britton]]
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|      Gib Cain (Buffy) and Sahjhan (Angel)
 +
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel
 +
|-
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0559869/ David Mattey]
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|      [[Luther Garland]]
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|      Behemoth Lorne
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| Angel
 +
|-
 +
|      [[Mark Rolston]]
 +
|      [[Alastair]]
 +
|      Boone
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| Angel
 
|-
 
|-
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|      Dave
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0835426/ Bradley Stryker]
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|      [[Chad Lindberg]]
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|      [[Ted]] and Tony
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|      [[Ash]]
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|      Talky Meat
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|      Angel
 
|-
 
|-
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|      Linwood Murrow on Angel
 
 
|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0748270/ John Rubenstein]
 
|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0748270/ John Rubenstein]
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|      [[Charlie The Magician]]
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|      [[Charlie the Magician]]
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|      Linwood Murrow
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| Angel
 +
|-
 +
|      [[Rob Benedict]]
 +
|      [[Chuck Shurley]]
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|      Jape
 +
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 +
|-
 +
|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0687443/ Jack Plotnick]
 +
|      [[Ian Johnston]]
 +
|      Deputy Mayor Allan Finch
 +
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 +
|-
 +
|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004806/ Charisma Carpenter]
 +
|      [[Maggie Stark]]
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| Cordelia Chase/Prima Ballerina/Jasmine
 +
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel
 +
|-
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551346/ James Marsters]
 +
|      [[Don Stark]]
 +
| Spike/The First Evil
 +
| Buffy the Vampire Slayerand Angel
 +
|- 
 +
|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0523825/ Henri Lubatti]
 +
|      [[Bobby's Reaper]]
 +
|      Dealer Vampire
 +
| Angel
 +
|-
 +
|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0342881/ Harry Groener]
 +
|      [[Professor Morrison]]
 +
|      Mayor Richard Wilkins/The First Evil
 +
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 +
|- 
 +
|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1291748/ Bryan Cuprill]
 +
|      [[George]]
 +
|      Roy
 +
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 
|-
 
|-
−
|      Vi
 
 
|      [[Felicia Day]]
 
|      [[Felicia Day]]
 
|      [[Charlene Bradbury]]
 
|      [[Charlene Bradbury]]
 +
|      Vi
 +
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 +
|-
 +
|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0105860/ Tamara Braun]
 +
|      [[Cindy Cassity]]
 +
|      Tara
 +
| Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 
|-
 
|-
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|      Ranse Burgess on Firefly
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0262125/ Treva Etienne]
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|      [[Frederic Lehne]]
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|      [[Tamiel]]
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|      [[Azazel]]
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|      Emil
 +
|      Angel
 +
|-     
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0909578/ Brigid Brannagh]
 +
|      Rita Johnson
 +
|      Virginia Bryce
 +
|      Angel
 
|-
 
|-
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|      Richard Wilkins
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|      [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0843775/ Keith Szarabajka]
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|      [[Harry Groener]]
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|      [[Donatello Redfield]]
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|      [[Professor Morrison]]
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|      Daniel Holtz
 +
|      Angel
 +
|-     
 +
|     
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[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0427869/ David Haydn-Jones]
 +
|      [[Arthur Ketch]]
 +
|      Hobson
 +
|      Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 
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==External links==
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* [http://sevenpoints.tumblr.com/post/3326793884 Season by Season Comparison of Buffy and Supernatural] by sevenpoints
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* [http://cliqueclack.com/tv/2009/09/01/eleven-ways-dean-winchester-is-like-buffy-summers/ Eleven Ways Dean Is Like Buffy]
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* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMXDqGKS-_s Fanvid - Superantural with Buffy Style Credits] by phoenix39
  
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==Links==
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[[Category:Library]][[Category:Popular Culture]]
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* [http://sevenpoints.tumblr.com/post/3326793884 Season by season comparison of Buffy and Supernatural] by sevenpoints
 
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* [http://cliqueclack.com/tv/2009/09/01/eleven-ways-dean-winchester-is-like-buffy-summers/ Eleven ways Dean is like Buffy]
 
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* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMXDqGKS-_s Fanvid - Superantural with Buffy style credits] by phoenix39
 
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[[Category: Popular Culture]][[Category:Library]]
 

Revision as of 14:39, 6 January 2020

BTVS---PROMO-POSTER-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-652786 326 500.jpg

Okay, WWBD. What would Buffy do? Huh?

– Ed Zeddmore, 1.17 Hell House

When Supernatural started, comparisons to the successful Joss Whedon shows Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel were inevitable. Like them, Supernatural featured ordinary people fighting the supernatural. It was also airing on The WB where Buffy had started and Angel had aired until it finished in 2003. An early review of the "Pilot" described Supernatural as "X-Files meets the OC, meets Buffy type show from the WB."

Supernatural certainly attracted many viewers who had also been fans of the Whedon show. This can particularly be seen in Supernatural/Buffy crossover fanworks, like the pairing of Dean with the rogue slayer Faith.

Buffy fandom invented the term Jossed - to be jossed is to have fan theories or events in Fanfic be invalidated by new canon in the show. By contrast Kripked was a term coined in Supernatural fandom to refer to having fan theories supported by canon. See also Fan Fic Cliches.

The most significant crossover between the series is Ben Edlund. Ben started working with Joss on Firefly before moving to Angel for the last couple of seasons. He wrote and directed the Hugo-nominated episode "Smile Time," aka the one where Angel gets turned into a puppet. Keith R.A. DeCandido has written tie-in novels for both Supernatural and Buffy.

Supernatural is set in in a world where Buffy exists as a TV show, as we find out when Ghostfacer Ed Zeddmore references it in 1.17 Hell House.

Eric Kripke said of Buffy:

I loved ‘Hush’ and ‘Once More, With Feeling,’ but overall, Buffy really taught me about effectively using metaphor in genre. For Buffy, it was ‘high school is hell (literally),’ and Joss Whedon did such a masterful job of grounding his horror and fantasy concepts in this notion, and ultimately telling allegories about high school, which turned what could’ve been B-Movie material into an all-time classic. I used that same philosophy on my run of Supernatural, with the mantra ‘family is hell (literally),’ and always grounded my horror episodes around the notion of families, to the show’s benefit. So thanks, Joss Whedon. I owe you a beer. (Credit: The WB)

Many actors from Buffy and Angel have appeared on Supernatural -- the first were Amy Acker, who appeared in 1.03 Dead in the Water, and Julie Benz, who was in 1.12 Faith. Following Amber Benson's appearance as Lenore in 2007, EP Bob Singer said "I thought Buffy had a great cast, and we used Amber Benson. I’d like to get Spike [James Marsters] on our show. I never thought I would particularly like Buffy, but my wife got me hooked on it, and I was hooked on him. Plus, that series was so well written. It was so smart." (Source) Bob got his wish when James Marsters appeared with Charisma Carpenter in the episode 7.05 Shut Up, Dr. Phil.

Other Whedon alumni who have appeared on Supernatural include:

Actor/Actress Role on Supernatural Role in Whedonverse Whedonverse Show
Jeffrey Dean Morgan John Winchester Sam Ryan Angel
Robert Peters Deputy Hein Arney Angel
Amy Acker Andrea Barr Winifred Burkle / Illyria Angel
Kristin Richardson Jenny Tracy Bellows Angel
Julie Benz Layla Rourke Darla Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel
Megalyn Echikunwoke Cassie Robinson Vaughne Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Ridge Canipe Young Dean Winchester Tommy Angel
Chad Lindberg Ash David Kirby Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Amber Benson Lenore Tara Maclay Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Annie Wersching Susan Thompson Margaret Angel
David Monahan Father Thomas Gregory Garrett Angel
Jeff Kober Randall Zachary Kralik and Rack Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Aldis Hodge Jake Talley Masked Teen Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Mercedes McNab Lucy Harmony Kendall Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel
Aimee Garcia Nancy Fitzgerald Cynthia York Angel
Brittany Ishibashi Maggie Zeddmore Vivian Angel
Todd Stashwick Dracula Vocah (Angel) and M'Fashnik Demon (Buffy) Angel and Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Jack Conley Sheriff Al Britton Gib Cain (Buffy) and Sahjhan (Angel) Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel
David Mattey Luther Garland Behemoth Lorne Angel
Mark Rolston Alastair Boone Angel
Bradley Stryker Ted and Tony Talky Meat Angel
John Rubenstein Charlie the Magician Linwood Murrow Angel
Rob Benedict Chuck Shurley Jape Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Jack Plotnick Ian Johnston Deputy Mayor Allan Finch Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Charisma Carpenter Maggie Stark Cordelia Chase/Prima Ballerina/Jasmine Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel
James Marsters Don Stark Spike/The First Evil Buffy the Vampire Slayerand Angel
Henri Lubatti Bobby's Reaper Dealer Vampire Angel
Harry Groener Professor Morrison Mayor Richard Wilkins/The First Evil Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Bryan Cuprill George Roy Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Felicia Day Charlene Bradbury Vi Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Tamara Braun Cindy Cassity Tara Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Treva Etienne Tamiel Emil Angel
Brigid Brannagh Rita Johnson Virginia Bryce Angel
Keith Szarabajka Donatello Redfield Daniel Holtz Angel

David Haydn-Jones

Arthur Ketch Hobson Buffy the Vampire Slayer

External links

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