User talk:Missyjack

Hey, do you think that God will appear sometime during the course of season six?

Confused Koopa Kid, November 9th 2010

RE Lucifer about the Colt:

Well first of all, it makes no sense to incorporate God as one of the five creatures that can't be killed with the Colt. God was never created; therefore he should be not connected or linked to created beings. But because he is The Creator, it is highly assumed that the Colt can't kill him anyway.

And secondly, I would assume that the Colt can kill/destroy White- Eyed Demons, and here's why: The Colt killed Azazel who appeared to have been stronger than Lilith herself.

And thirdly, I highly disagree with the speculation that Angels are immune to the Colt's affects. Castiel himself thought that the only thing that could destroy Lucifer aside Michael and God was the Colt; that vaguely shows that Castiel "knows" that the Colt can in fact kill an angel so he thought that it might work against Lucifer.

Confused Koopa Kid, November 7th 2010

Been thinking. Illustrative case in point, 1.01 Pilot (transcript) currently reads:

MARY walks down the hall to SAM's nursery. JOHN, seen only in silhouette, stands over SAM's crib.

I think we'd do better to have that bits read:

MARY walks down the hall to SAM's nursery. AZAZEL stands over SAM's crib; he is seen only in silhouette, so MARY and first-time viewers think he's JOHN.

Possibly without the 'and first-time viewers' bit, possibly with 'someone' instead of 'Azazel'. Also, in 3.11 Mystery Spot (transcript), acknowledging that the pancake man is the Trickster in disguise at the first appearance of the pancake man, rather than waiting until Richard Speight Jr. makes his appearance. Point is, writing the transcripts from the point of view of someone who has seen all the episodes, or at least the entirety of that episode, rather than from the point of view of someone who knows nothing about the episode before reading the transcript. Good idea, bad idea, Ellie you idiot there are people who hit the transcripts with screenreaders rather than playing the episode, or what? —EllieMurasaki 21:38, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me. Are you going to reply to my comments any time soon?

Confused Koopa Kid, Nov 1st 2010

Do you mind putting the 6.06 section of Lucifer's Cage back the way I had it?

Dean tells Bobby that Sam has been different ever since he was released from the Cage. At first, he thought that Sam might have been Lucifer since Sam's release between 5.22 Swan Song and 6.01 Exile On Main St.. But Castiel denies this, and says that if Lucifer was on Earth, they would have felt his presence.

Also, more spam. What Are Ugg Boots —EllieMurasaki 02:10, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

As long as we are putting things back on Lucifer's Cage, I'd like to request that a well-known fact (that the Cage is located in Hell) be restored as well. Canonical evidence of this appears below, and no amount of disbelief and bluster from EllieMurasaki changes the fact that said pieces of evidence do exist. Lucifer1987 20:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Again with the spam. How to Clean UGG Slippers —EllieMurasaki 21:48, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

I have been thinking long and hard about whom else can't be killed by the Colt gun. Here is my speculation on the matter.

Lucifer, God, Death, Jesse Turner and Michael

So what's your opinion?

Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 30th 2010

I've been doing some in-depth research on disease manipulation as it appears in the Supernatural verse. So far, the only account in which it appears is in 5.21 and 6.03. Only the Staff of Moses and Pestilence can manipulate plagues and diseases. But after Lucifer was released from his Cage in 5.01, swine flu suddenly spreads and kills many people. So can Lucifer control diseases too, or was it Pestilence who did this? It is quite likely that it was Pestilence, mainly because when Lucifer was freed from Hell, War's "beeper went off", so it leads me to assume that Pestilence was also altered when the Devil arrived on Earth, in which he caused the spread of the swine flu in 5.01.

Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 30th 2010

Hello again! Is Gabriel's Horn of Truth an actual weapon? I would assume so because, Castiel tells Dean that it’s not on Earth and that something else is invoking humans to speak the truth. So should I add a page that concerns the weapon? It is an actual angelic tool after all.

Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 30th 2010

Hello, a new spam page was added at 05:38: Now enjoy nfl redzone on dish network‎. --MisterGlass 14:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I just have a quick question for you. In episode 6.03 The Third Man, near the end, did you notice the guy who had a frog stuck in his throat? As an observer, I noticed that this guy's clothing (expensive suit, tie, and nice pants) suggests that he was a "Henchman angel". This then brings forward the question: Can angels be affected by the power of the Staff of Moses? In my opinion, I would've said yes at first. But then I remembered episode 5.21 Two Minutes To Midnight; Pestilence was shocked when he saw that his power (Pestilence's powers are very similar to that of the Staff of Moses) affected Castiel, who is an angel; then he realized that Cas was powerless. So these two theories contradict one another. What's your opinion? So when you get a chance, please post your opinion on my discussion page. Thanks

- Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 26th 2010

I'm so but I have another question. Do know if we'll being seeing a Horesman in season 6?

- Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 13th 2010

I don't want to spoil anything for you, but, I heard from a user that, Gabriel might return somehow in season six. Do you know if that's accurate or not?

- Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 13th 2010

I just added "Do the four Archangels represent elements?" to my user page. You should take a look at my thoughts and theories posted there.

- Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 12th 2010

In your opinion, do you think it would relevant to create a page called Manipulation? I personally think that it would be, mainly because; a large majority of the creatures in Supernatural can manipulate a great number of things. For Example: Michael can generate/control fire, Lucifer can freeze objects simply by breathing on them (suggesting that he can control/generate the ice element), The Four Horsemen can generate/focus their main powers through their rings at will. So, in my opinion, I honestly believe that a page titled "Manipulation" would be completely relevant to the show, seeing as most "Super-Creatures" can control elements or can focus their powers in such a way that make it seem like a form of manipulation.

Thanks for your time! Please post your answer/opinion on my Discussion Page.

- Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 12th 2010

More spam. Wear Pink Ugg Boots to Steal The Limelight. (Also the wiki's complaining about this page being more than 32kb.) —EllieMurasaki 14:28, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks for editing down my synopsis of 6.02 Two And A Half Men. I went a little overboard and couldn't figure out what to cut... I think I've gotten a little too excited what with watching Supernatural in real time now. The week between each episode might just kill me ;) --Ashley 1:00, 3 October 2010 (EST)

Hello there, it looks like a spam page was created this morning: 2011 Wedding Gown Trends‎. It looks like an advertisement. I find no reference to Supernatural weddings...which would be fun to see. --MisterGlass 14:15, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi there, I so psyched about tomorrow.... The sixth season starts!

- Confused Koopa Kid, September 23rd 2010

In fairness, User:Tatt1e doesn't seem to be a spammer. Only edit that user made before getting blocked was factually incorrect and I'm about to go fix it, but it wasn't spam. —EllieMurasaki 01:23, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi, we've got at least three spammers, check recent changes. Probably more than three spammers, but the other new accounts with crazy names haven't done anything but create accounts. —EllieMurasaki 21:53, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello, thank you very much for the info about the blog, I'll definitely stop by. Have a nice day! -- MisterGlass 00:49, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi there,

I can't wait for season six! I read your message, and I will definitely check out the Super-Wiki Blog.

SonicShocker, 11:05 AM, August 28th 2010 (UTC)

Seems to me there should be deletion of File:EmmaWatson9b.JPG. —EllieMurasaki 06:25, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello! It looks to me like a spam page was added on 6th August at 12:50 by Megacooler43. -- MisterGlass, 13:33, August 7th 2010 (UTC)

Hey MissyJack,

I just created a page which concerns Anna's adoptive parents, which I titled Mr. and Mrs. Milton.

I have a quick question for you.

If I remember correctly, wasn't Anna's adoptive father named Richard or Roger?

SonicShocker, August 5th 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

Charon created a page titled Nephilim; I told him/her that it is not canon-related and that it shouldn't be on this Wiki. Could you delete the page?

SonicShocker, August 1st 2010 (UTC)

Hi there,

I moved the Cherub page to a page which I retitled Cupids. I also think that it would be helpful to this Wiki if I deleted the Cupid page all together and moved some of its info to Cupids page. What's your opinion?

SonicShocker, 8:53 PM, July 28th 2010

P.S

I removed all Cupid's info. However, I didn't officially delete the page, and I know that only an Admin can delete pages. Could you help me out by deleting Cupid page? I mean, most of the info was on both pages, so to me, it made no sense to have two separate pages for the same info.....

Hey do you think you could find a pic of War, Famine, Pestilence and Death's Rings in merge form?

GrammarKing, July 20th 2010 (UTC)

Hey MissyJack, take a look The 66 Seals page; a righteous man is defined as a potential Vessel for Michael, so I was correct. --GrammarKing, July 20th 2010

Hey MissyJack, John Winchester was supposed to break the First Seal, according to Alastair, correct? So than wouldn't that make him the True Vessel of Michael, and not Dean? Even though Dean did break the first Seal, it was suppose to be John, so wouldn't Dean be a plan b Vessel; John was intended to break the first seal.

In 5.17 99 Problems, Dean being one step closer to assenting to Michael, made him a Servant of Heaven, correct? But wouldn't John be more of a Servant of Heaven than Dean, I say this mainly because he resisted Al for 100 years in Hell and never gave into his offers, where as Dean did. -- GrammarKing, July 20th 2010

Hey MissyJack, is it true that the air date of an episode corresponds with dates in Supernatural? For example: The air date of 4.17 It's A Terrible Life is March 26th 2009, so is it canonical to say that Zachariah first appeared on March 26th 2009, or are they totally separate from each other? The main reason I'm asking this is I want to add the dates of Zachariah's first appearance to his page. -- GrammarKing, July 20th 2010

In biblical lore, Pestilence is traditionally known as the "White Horseman", correct? But in Supernatural, he drives a green car and he wears a ring with an emerald in the center. So wouldn't it be more canonical to say that he is the "Green Horseman"? I mean, all of the other horsemen have color titles that match their car's color. For example: Famine is also known as the "Black Horseman" because he drives a black car. -- GrammarKing, July 19th 2010

Lately I've been re-watching episodes from the fifth season. I just saw 5.10 Abandon All Hope for the second time last night. And something strange caught my attention. When the Devil summoned Death, did you see wings sprout outward after Death ascended from his "box"? I did. I think Death is more angelic than demonic. I really would like to know your opinion. If you agree with me then I'll post this on his page . -- GrammarKing, July 15th 2010

well, yeah he is angelic because War is cast to Earth from heaven as a star known as wormwood. So would his other three brothers be angelic to? and no one ever hinted that they were anything "demonic". they are just their to bring on the apocalypse, whether the victor be heaven or hell

TTYL

When was Lucifer clarified as being an archangel? Lucifer told Nick that he's an angel. So shouldn't we post that on his occupation section? This is really bugging me. Gabriel told Dean and Sam that he is an archangel. Castiel told Dean that Raphael is an archangel. But no one ever said Lucifer is an archangel.-- GrammarKing, July 7th 2010

yeah but it says many times that gabriel, and michael are his brothers. Angels, however, have never once mentioned that they are "brothers", and when the archangels said it, you could feel the family bond

TTYL

Happy Fourth Of July!

Did you watch the fireworks?

In my opinion, I believe Chuck is God, mainly because: Chuck the Prophet was only able to see the Winchesters' future..... However in episode 5.22 Swan Song, he tells us that Bobby with soon be hunting a rugaru. It seems to me like Chuck is God. I really would like to know your opinion.

In 5.16 Dark Side Of The Moon, Why didn't Michael try to locate Dean and Sam while they were in Heaven? I really would like to know your opinion. -- GrammarKing, July 3rd 2010

TTYL

I don't understand why God resurrected Castiel but not Gabriel. He's already resurrected Cas twice already, but for some odd reason He didn't revive Gabriel after he died. Why? Do you have any thoughts on this matter? If so, please post them on my Talk Page. -- GrammarKing, July 3rd 2010

TTYL

I would greatly appreciate it if you would un-lock the Demonology page. I need to make some edits. -- GrammarKing, July 2nd 2010

TTYL

You should really check out my self-written overview of Season 5. I have posted Episodes 1-3 so far. -- GrammarKing, July 2nd 2010

TTYL

I just recently added a self-written overview of Season 5 onto my User page. You should check it out. GrammarKing, June 29th 2010

TTYL

I can't wait till Season 6. I apologize for my "unnecessary" pic uploading, my mistake. I was not aware that Supernatural Wiki has to pay for funds as well as the images displayed on this Wiki. I will try to keep my pics as Supernatural related as possible. Is there any way I could delete some of the pics that I uploaded? I know there is a deletion log on this Wiki - I hear that only an Admin can delete a page. GrammarKing, June 29th 2010

TTYL

RE: Lucifer describes his and Sam's partnership (pairing) as a union. He says that they were always meant to be together. He said they are two halves made whole - MFEO. Does this not meet the criteria/standards for Supernatural Pairings? -- GrammarKing, June 19th 2010

TTYL

I find it hard to fathom that Zachariah, the great Seraph, was killed with a Normal Angel Killing Blade. Does this seem odd to you too? I mean, I didn't like Zachariah's attitude (some Supernatural fans refer to him as the "prick angel" because of his rude stature and petty nature), but how could a "normal angel killing blade" work on him?

TTYL

GrammarKing, June 19th 2010

I'm very confused. Why did you change the info that was documented on the page titled "Lucifer's Cage"? I mean all of the information that was on the page was completely canonical, or am I mistaken? The info that I am referring to is documented below.

"Lucifer's cage was designed by Angels. God got tired of Lucifer’s constant defiance to His orders, so, God banished Lucifer to Earth. In a violent rage, Lucifer decided to anger God by twisting a Human soul into a Demon. This demon was named Lilith. After this, God sent Michael down to Earth to condemn his younger brother to an abyss. Michael banished Lucifer to this abyss after defeating him in an angelic Battle. This abyss was locked with 600 Seals. Only 66 of the 600 had to be broken in order for Lucifer to be released. Near the end episode 5.22 Swan Song, Michael and a "controlled" Lucifer (Sam) fell into this endless Chasm. At the very end of 5.22 Swan Song, Sam was seen out side of Lisa's house underneath a lamp. Lucifer's Cage seems to be located in a whole separate dimension. Even the most powerful of beings can be held here. Lucifer was kept incarcerated in this cage due to 600 Seals. When 66 of the 600 Seals were broken he was set free to deceive the Nations. Michael and Lucifer fell into Lucifer's Cage near the end of episode 5.22 Swan Song. They are currently being held here even with the locks disabled (the 66 Seals)."

TTYL

GrammarKing, June 12th 2010

I've been doing a lot of research on the grand Ambassador of Heaven. He is an angel who holds immense power and wisdom. His name is Metatron. I was so disappointed that he didn't make an appearance in the fifth season. I assume that there were many reasons to his non-appearance. The main reason may have been that Michael was so similar to Metatron that they didn't need him to appear in season Five. Do you have any thoughts on the matter? --GrammarKing, June 6th 2010

TTYL

I always get a good laugh at the comics issued at http://www.VGcats.com.... Have you been to this website? If not, I highly recommend it; you shouldn’t be disappointed. The comics posted there are hysterical.

TTYL

GrammarKing, MAY 30th 2010 (UTC)

I have one quick question. In your opinion, what do you think will happen to Death now? Will he appear somewhere down the road in season Six? I ask all of this because: If the Antichrist is in fact the new antagonist of season Six, then wouldn't Death be involved somehow? And in my humble opinion, I believe that they should've done more with the Antichrist in season Five.... I mean, the Antichrist plays a major role in the book of Revelations.... So, then how does it make sense to place him aside from Judgment Day? It doesn't, I'm I right?

TTYL

GrammarKing, MAY 28th 2010 (UTC)

CASTIEL: Even if you could...kill Sam, Satan would just bring him back to life. ANNA: Not after I scatter his cells across the universe. ANNA: They'll never find him. Not all of him. – Anna Milton, 5.13 The Song Remains The Same

Raphael's teleportation power - Didn't Anna imply that Lucifer could make an attempt to find all of Sam's missing molecules that she wants to spread across the Universe? The only way to do that is by teleportation, is it not? So then one would be led to believe that the Three other archangels could do the same...

TTYL

GrammarKing, MAY 27th 2010 (UTC)

I tried uploading the pic called Lucifer's_Prison.jpg. Unfortunately, this particular pic was either corrupt or it had a bad intention. Could you help me upload this pic? I would greatly appreciate it.

TTYL

GrammarKing, MAY 27th 2010 (UTC)

Can I post my Jesus theory/speculation to God's page? It's bugging me to see that it's not included anywhere on His page. I honestly believe that Chuck was containing JC during 5.22 Swan Song..... And, I could've sworn I saw Chuck's eyes twinkle bright yellow before he vanished. Do you catch that?

TTYL

GrammarKing, MAY 27th 2010 (UTC)

There have been many opinionated theories on whether or not Chuck is God - In my honest opinion, I believe that Chuck was briefly possessed by JC (Jesus Christ) during the events in 5.22 Swan Song.... What's your opinion on the matter? It seems weird to think that Chuck was God the whole time - I mean the Chuck from 4.22 Lucifer Rising seemed like an entirely different person than the one in 5.22 Swan Song.

TTYL

GrammarKing, MAY 26th 2010 (UTC)

I can't wait till the sixth Season airs. I'm on the verge of insanity. It's probably just my lack of patience. Har har har! On a more serious note: The sooner the sixth airs, the sooner I will be satisfied.

TTYL

GrammarKing, MAY 26th 2010 (UTC)

Do you have any thoughts on what Season Six will be about? Something huge is going to take place in the Sixth Season.... I can feel it, can’t you? I mean that way 5.22 Swan Song ended I’d say there’s a pretty good chance that the Antichrist will be the new antagonist of Season Six.

GrammarKing, MAY 24th 2010 (UTC)

Some user keeps adding the pic {File:LuciferSam1.jpg} to Lucifer's Bio page. However I highly disagree with this post. Lucifer as of this date has yet to possess Sam Winchester. It was predicted by Zachariah that one day (2014) Sam Winchester would consent to Lucifer. However, he has yet to do this during the present. Although, I did post the pic {File:LuciferSam1.jpg} along with a short thumbnail under 5.04 The End on Lucifer's page. It would be wise if you or another Wiki User protected that page by blocking certain eidts.

Anderson Writer, MAY 13th 2010 (UTC)

In your honest opinion, do you believe that Chuck is God? There has been a lot of controversy on this matter. Many users are posting their thoughts and theories on His Talk page. Anderson Writer, MAY 17th 2010 (UTC)

There is much more to learn lets talk.

What's up Missy? That last Episode was awesome, wasn't it? Michael's finally here, yippee. Well see ya.

Later

Anderson Writer

Hey,

The Character page titled "Young John Winchester" is a relatively recent page. This character has played two major roles in Canon, the first was in 4.03 In The Beginning and he appeared again in 5.13 The Song Remains The Same. I created the page titled Young John Winchesters; I made it separate from the page titled John Winchester, because I thought that in a canonical sense their two different characters, for this character did appear twice. At first I thought it would be Wiki appropriate, but I think your input and opinion will be helpful to me and help me edit this Wiki with more accuracy. I also did the same for Young Mary Winchester. Please post your opinion and thoughts on my Discussion page.

Thanks

Later missy

Anderson Writer, FEB. 8th 2010

HI there,

Thank you for your great and helpful input! It is Greatly Appreciated. I will certainly work on creating less add-ons; Meaning, if there is already an existing page to a certain character, I will try to just add onto that existing page rather than creating a new seperate page.

Later missy

Anderson Writer, FEB. 8th 2010

P.S. (COULD YOU HELP ME DELETE THE YOUNG WINCHESTER PAGES?)

I did move the info from the page titled "Young John Winchester" and added it to John Winchester; under John as a young man. I will do the same for "Young Mary Winchester".

Hey,

Thank u for deleting the "young John" page. I can't wait till Thursday night; this episode should be very interesting. I was curious, after this upcoming episode, when does Season 5 start up again. Do you think that season five will stop at Episode 22? Let's hope for a Season 6.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, FEB. 10th 2010

Hey,

I was just wondering, did it mention in 5.14 as to whether or not Cupids need vessels?

It was very an interesting episode, don't you agree? I thought is was some-what weird, but good too.

Anderson Writer

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Some pages I think are interesting would be:

Angel Garrison
Lucifer
Michael
Angel Lore
The Colt
& the Pad of Definitions

Hope that helped,

-Cancerouschime

Hey,

I was wondering if u knew anything about the upcoming episode? I'm guessing probably not, because it to far away to know.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, FEB. 16th 2010

I just finished with Supernatural S1 for Characters Count Wiki. (Results: the cast of characters is a little under forty percent female and about fifteen percent nonwhite, and the female characters speak to each other about subjects other than men depressingly few times and the characters of color speak to each other about subjects other than white people not once in the whole damn season. You'd think Route 666, at least, would pass the race Bechdel, considering that the premise of the ep is look how racist the show creators are not, but no such luck.) I'm wondering where would be an appropriate place to link to that from the SuperWiki, or if I should duplicate the content over here, and if so where I should put it. Thanks! —EllieMurasaki 17:27, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

I was just looking at some of Season 5 transcripts, the most recent episodes are in need of transcripts. I don't me to rush you, I just wanted to point out that these transcripts have been blank for at least 2 weeks.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer FEB. 17th 2010

Hey,

I was curious and just thought that I should ask you before I do this.

Could I by chance change Zachariah's Occupation to High Ranking Angel and erase the archangel bit? I mean it still hasn't been clearly explained as to his true job/career, we do know that he's an angel of high rank.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, FEB. 17th 2010

P.S

Do u think that u could add more recent pics to Sam and Dean's recurring character template? I mean sam's pic on his character template was taken from Season 1.

Hey,

I’ve been thinking and re thinking this scenario:

It was just recently illustrated in 5.13 The Song Remains The Same, that although this Enochian-like-inscription can hide them from all angels, apparently not from Michael. Michael seemingly found them in the year of 1978 without any troubles; he also appeared right when John was about to die and also when Mary was in danger. If these angel inscriptions could hide them from "All" angels, than Michael couldn't have appeared right when he did.

Could I post this on the Enochian page??? I mean it's all Canon based info, and there's no speculations within this scenario.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, FEB. 18th 2010

Hey,

I apologize for my late replies. I was just doing some research on Wikipedia, I found out that the Horseman Pestilence is just another name for Death, is this true? Just recently I erased the name "Pestilence" from the Recurring Character Template, more specifically under the name section. Should I restore this bit of Info, should I wait till more comes to light, and restore it then?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, FEB. 23rd 2010

Hey,

Nice going on the Transcript progress.

Anderson Writer, FEB. 24th 2010

Hey,

I'm kind of irritated that there will not be a new episode airing tonight. Lately I’ve been concentrating on Azazel and his background. I just recently have come up with an interesting scenario, I was curious if you knew the answer to this:

The Writers and producers of Supernatural have hinted and suggested that every Demon in the show were once human. This got me thinking that if Azazel was once human, couldn't he have had children? I think that he was once human and he had children, these children in my opinion were turned into Demons just like their father Azazel. I mean aren't all Demons brothers and sisters? The only sensible way for this to make sense is if Azazel was once human, and that he along with his children (Meg & Tom) were some how turned into Demons; Isn’t Lucifer the father of all demons? I'm not going to post this, however I thought it would be interesting to hear your opinion on the matter.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 4th 2010

Hey,

It seems that lately more and more Users are creating Wiki accounts and BIO's. This is great for the Wiki.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 4th 2010

Hey,

I apologize for not replying to your E-mails that you have sent to my E-mail Account. Lately it hasn't been working properly, it says that I need to check and revise my account security.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 4th 2010

P.S

Just for now it would be helpful if you left your messages on my Discussion page instead of posting them on my E-mail account. Hopefully I figure out the solution to this E-mail crisis.

Hey,

Pestilence should be making an appearance in the 20th Episode. This has not yet been confirmed, but it has been said that an actor by the name of Matt Frewer is suppose to portray this Horseman.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 7th 2010

P.S

I apologize for my spoilers; I'll try to stay away from them.

Hey,

Lately, I’ve been thinking of Episode Definitions. The story of Cain and Abel came to mind; I thought that I should ask you before creating and constructing this page, could I create a page in reference to Cain and Abel? They were mentioned by Michael in 5.13, and they are mysteriously connected to Sam and Dean as Michael told this to Dean. In a way their very similar to Sam and Dean, their both brothers, one eventually betrays the other and eventually kills his brother; this is very ironic and quite parallel to Dean and Sam's destiny, as Gabriel said, one brother with have to kill the other.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 8th 2010

Hey,

The show has yet to confirm the idea that Raphael is part of the angelic group called The Host of Heaven. If the show did confirm this, I must have missed it. Please reply by leaving a message on my Discussion page if the show did confirm this. Thanks!

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 8th 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

I was curious if you knew whether or not God will make a physical appearance in this show? It wouldn't make sense logically if he did happen to make an appearance, I mean, there is a Sixth Season coming up, and if God showed himself in the Fifth Season wouldn't that signify the end of the world?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 10th 2010 (UTC)

Hey, (PLEASE REPLY BACK TO ME BY LEAVING A REPLY ON MY DISCUSSION PG CONCERNING THIS TOPIC)

Do you think that the future that was explained in 5.04 The End will actually come to pass? I hope not. If this future were true wouldn't that mean Michael would be gone for good? (He did leave with the rest of the Host) Michael told Dean that he will say yes to him with no doubt; in my opinion, if Dean consented to Michael before Sam consents to Lucifer than wouldn't this mess with the supposed future events that Zachariah predicted? If God did appear before this supposed-future came to pass he could prevent this future from actually happening. Or if he appeared after this future event he could put things back to normal; he could resurrect Dean and eliminate Lucifer.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 11th 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

You must be very busy. I don't mean to pry but you haven't replied to my comment that I posted on MARCH 11th 2010. If you happen to read this please reply back to me. Just out of curiosity have you recently heard from User:Cancerouschime? He too has not posted me recently.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 14th 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

You might want to check out my BIO section on the front page of my User account. It's awesome. Just a side question, are other users allowed/supposed to edit other people's BIO pages? If so, is there any way I could secure/protect my accounts content? I did happen to copy and paste all of my accounts content onto a Microsoft Word Document.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 15th 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

How should I go about setting protections onto my BIO page on my User account? How do you set protections on an account?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 15th 2010 (UTC)

P.S

I noticed that you just protected my account. Thanks a bunch!

Hey,

I'm trying to upload a pic titled 'WikiLogo.Jpg' onto my User page. Unfortunately, when I put all of the pics info on the page titled "Upload File" it said the following: "The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again." Could you help me out? I am trying to post the idea on my User page that I’m a PROUD member of Smallville wiki.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 16th 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

I've come up with a very interesting theory.

MY THEORY:

I think that the Five Things In All Of Creation that can't be killed with the Colt is listed below:

1.Lucifer (Proved in Canon)

2.Michael

3.Gabriel

4.Raphael

5.Jesse Turner

What's your opinion on this matter? Who do you think are the 5 things that can't be killed with the Colt?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 16th 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

I have been very busy lately, so unfortunately I missed Episode 15 of Season 5. I would greatly appreciate it if you could give me an overview of Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 30th 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

Is it true that Hell is frozen du to lucifer's abscence?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 1st 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

Last night's Episode was phenomenal. I am continuously thinking about one of the things that Zachariah said, which was "In Heaven I have six wings and four faces, one of which is a lion", I happen to know that in Biblical Lore Seraphims are described as having six wings. Do you happen to know if he is an actual Seraph? Please do reply back when you get the chance.

'Later Missy’

Anderson Writer, APRIL 2nd 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

5.16 was an awesome Episode, I loved it! A lot of info concerning Heaven was finally leaked in this episode. I was wondering if I should add Zachariah's entire episode list onto the Seraph page (under the Episode Template)? I am asking this because it remains unconfirmed as to whether or not Zach is an actual Seraph, so I feel kind of reluctant to add it. We are coming closer and closer to the FINAL episode; I noticed in 5.16 that Dean left his Amulet at some apartment, and I remembered that he didn't have it with him in the supposed future in 2014; could that be a sign that this particular future might come to pass? Joshua told Dean and Sam that God said he will no longer interfere with the affairs of Dean and Sam an he won't try to end the apocalypse, for he said that he has intervened too much, therefore that only Entity besides God who can defeat Lucifer is Michael. Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 5th 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

When u get a chance u really should check out my User Page, I just recently updated it, IT"S SOOO AWESOME!!

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 9th 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

Just yesterday my younger brother created an account on this Wiki. His User name is "Dean Winchester", I was curious if you could monitor his edits. He unknowingly creates pages and posts information on them that already exists. For Example, he created the page titled Sam's Powers, this is clearly a form of Wiki-duplication, the info that he put on this page already exists on the page Sam Winchester.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 13th 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

Do you think that Raphael will appear for a second time in Season 5?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 25th 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

I do think it's a high possibility that we won't see him again ('Sniff'). My reasoning for is: there is only 2-3 episodes left in Season 5, and he's made one physical appearance in the entire fifth season; from this, you can draw many different conclusions. But hey, you never know, he might make an appearance in the last or second to last episode.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 26th 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

The user Learn to Swim has been adjusting/adding many information concerning the Four Horsemen. I completely understand that his or her (User:Learn to Swim) consistent edits helps this Wiki tremendously. However, I've come across a possible problem:

This particular user added a page titled Lucifer's Cage. I looked at the page in its entirety, and it seems as if this particular info should be documented on the "already existing page" titled St. Mary's Convent... any helpful thoughts and or suggestions?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 27th 2010 (UTC)

P.S

Please send me your opinion on the case documented above.

Thanks

The convent itself isn't where Lucifer was, though. It's just one place the cage could be opened to let Lucifer out. —EllieMurasaki 20:42, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

I just spotted a HUGE spoiler on the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse page; User:Rvn1966 posted this spoiler (pic spoiler). Should I remove the pic from the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse page? Also, this particular user added an Un-Aired episode title to the Horsemen page (this particular episode has yet to air in the U.S.)

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MAY 4th 2010 (UTC)

P.S

I removed some spoilers from the Horsemen page along with the Death page.

Never mind. I've already taken care of it, no worries. On a side-note - Please monitor User:Rvn1966 edits.

Hey,

Do you think it would be against Wik- addikit (spelling of this word could be slightly off) if I put a Section coded as Powers and Abilities under God's page? It was clearly stated by the angel named Joshua that God known’s everything via Omniscient. However, he has yet to make an actual appearance in Supernatural, so should I wait, or what would you suggest?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MAY 5th 2010 (UTC)

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Hi,

I'm sorry about my spoiler adds.I did't notice that Super-wiki is spoiler free.

I will be more attentive. :)

Thanks for the informations.

Darko 10.20 P.M., May 8th 2010 (UTC)

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Hey,

I noticed that user Lord nastrond posted Death's powers on Death's page. Don't we generally post these types of things on the broader pages? For example: Angel powers are posted on Angel Lore, Horsemen powers are posted on Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

I removed this info. However, Lord nastrond just recently revised my edit by re-posting his previous edit. Should I leave this be, or what should I do about this?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MAY 8th 2010 (UTC)

P.S

The user Lord nastrond is still causing Wiki related problems. I have noticed that some of his or her edits are un-canonical. Such as: Under the page Angel Lore, Lord nastrond posted that God can kill any angel he wishes; to me, this is not Canon, as it has yet to be stated in the show. He or she seems to be posting info related to other Mythological theories; one being that God can do what he wishes. But as Death said: "God can be reaped." In this show, God may have limits.

I would greatly appreciate it if you would assist me in fixing this problem. Thanks in advance.

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Hi,

im sorry if some of my editations have caused you or other contributors any problems. im not still entirely sure of the rules of editing, and i have a poor memory about what is considered canon. and i thank you greatly for showing me my errors and doing me the courtesy of explaining these to me in a polite fashion. please if i unintentionally create further problems dont hestitate to illustate the error to me

thank you for your time and consideration :)

- Lord Nastrond

My Theory

Wouldn't Death be the Head of the Four Horsemen? Even in Supernatural, Death has verbalized his potential. His capabilities seem to far surpass the power of his horsemen siblings (War, Famine and Pestilence). Apparently, the human mind cannot fully calculate nor process Death's "true" power. Death brought this fact to the table when he addressed it to Dean Winchester. Because this is only in theory, I am reluctant to post this onto his occupation section. Should I add this (Head Horsemen) to his Occupation section?

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Anderson Writer, MAY 13th 2010 (UTC)

I can't believe that the 22nd episode is already here. Can't wait till tonight. Are you excited? I hope they fit Raphael + Michael in 5x22. To me, it would be weird if they didn't show Raphael in the Season 5 Finale (Raphael is still alive; although his is still bound to the Holy Fire Circle). As for Michael, he did find his vessel (Adam). So technically, Lucifer and Michael could still fight each other. The writers had to have had an explicit reason for using Adam to contain Michael. Couldn't Michael fight Lucifer in Adam's body and Lucifer fight Michael in Nick's body?

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Anderson Writer, MAY 13th 2010 (UTC)

I noticed you deleted the Sam/Lucifer page because it's "not a fanfic pairing". What's that supposed to mean in this context? Because it's not like there's a shortage of Sam/Lucifer fic. —EllieMurasaki 17:34, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

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Hello, I have a question for you regarding the articles Cupid and Cherub. I would like to combine them into 'Cherub' and delete 'Cupid' on the grounds that they contain essentially the same information. What would be your opinion on that change? Thank you, MisterGlass 13:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

User:EllieMurasaki

Hello Missyjack,

Sorry to bother you with such a trivial issue, but we have a small problem. It seems a disgruntled user, EllieMurasaki, is refusing to believe and accept canonical information and quotes from the show in an attempt to disprove the apparent fact that Lucifer's Cage is located in the deepest part of Hell. It's not just I either that has noted the ridiculous nature of her statements and tendency to wander off topic when the argument is not coming down in her favor. I would like to request that you please speak to her and ask her to please stop trying to alter the page to discount the information that has already been presented and to accept that it has indeed been said that Lucifer's Cage is in Hell. She is inciting an edit war over the topic and I feel that it's only going to escalate, therefore I am here to request your help in defusing the situation and help her to see reason. I even attempted a compromise language to say that it is "implied" that it is in Hell, yet she refuses to let the issue lay at that. If you could help in this instance, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Lucifer1987 00:39, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm not rehashing the debate on the Lucifer's Cage talk page. Suffice it to say: I don't think statements made by show creators are necessarily show canon, any more than I think the comics and novels are necessarily show canon; I think what the show demonstrates as factual within showverse (case in point, minor angels such as Castiel can get in and out of hell with great ease compared to what it takes to get archangels in and out of the cage) trumps everything the characters say on the matter; I think the compromise position is saying that the cage may be in hell but may also not be. —EllieMurasaki 00:50, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Yet comments in the show itself don't seem to resonate with you, or you are simply trying to pretend they don't exist. Either way it seems you are simply refusing in bad faith to accept that it has indeed been said in the show itself, aside from Sera Gamble's confirmation. It is OBVIOUSLY in Hell, as said by NUMEROUS characters (even Lucifer himself!), yet EllieMurasaki refuses to acknowledge those confirmations. Lucifer1987 00:52, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Lucifer's Cage/Harassment from User:EllieMurasaki

MissyJack, I would like to give you examples of evidence that clearly show that Lucifer's Cage is indeed in Hell and that the knowledge of this should not be removed from the page based upon one biased person's disbelief:

1. Anna Milton states that "Lilith is trying to break the 66 Seals to free Lucifer from Hell" in "I Know What You Did Last Summer".
2. Lucifer states in "The End" that "....for that God had Michael cast me into Hell."
3. Dean states in "Swan Song" that "Your (Sam's) Hell is gonna make my tour look like Graceland."
4. Sam states in "Exile on Main Street" to Dean ".....why would I want to think about Hell?" when questioned about his time in Lucifer's Cage.

Each of these is crystal clear in their implication: Lucifer's Cage is located in Hell, and each of these is incontrivertibly canon. Even non-canonically, Sera Gamble has also stated that the Cage is located in the deepest part of Hell, and she is the one now in charge of the show. Given all this evidence, amongst other pieces, I highly suggest you restore this information to the page and speak to EllieMurasaki about leaving the page alone from now on, as she has given no evidence to back up her disbelief and has attempted to repeatedly ignore all this evidence to the contrary.

On another note, EllieMurasaki has been harassing me on my talk page and has been editing in bad faith merely to stir up trouble in my opinion. I would ask that you please rebuke her and tell her to keep antagonistic and narcissistic comments off my talk page. You can view the harassment here.

Verbatim: "Point the first: I gave you lots of evidence, none of which relied on taking the word of characters who have been repeatedly shown to be, if not unreliable narrators, then narrators whose reliability cannot be taken for a given. You ignored the lot of it. Point the second: Do you have a single thing on your contributions page that doesn't relate to this? Point the third: I won. —EllieMurasaki 02:08, 1 November 2010 (UTC)"

In reality, she gave no real evidence to support her position, she constantly denies that any evidence exists within the show proving the Cage is in Hell, and she has not convinced even a single person of her position as a result. I believe the "I won." statement above proves that she has been editing in bad faith merely to stir up edit wars, and I believe something needs to be done about it.

Lucifer1987 20:40, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

If Lucifer1987 shuts up, I will. And given that Lucifer1987 has made precisely three edits anywhere on the site not relating to this issue (I checked) and I've made, well, more, somehow I suspect if anybody's editing in bad faith, it's not me. —EllieMurasaki 21:51, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

And I say that EllieMurasaki is merely upset that someone has stood up to her and is merely seeking to stir up trouble, and her outrageous statements, as shown above, prove that she has not been acting in good faith. She is the one that has opened her trap and is the one that will not "shut up" about a foregone conclusion. She has not even given a response to the information posted above here, which again proves she has no real intent upon acknowledging that she is wrong in her assessments. If she would "shut up" herself, there would be no issue at all because nobody else has questioned such an obvious fact but she. Lucifer's Cage is located in Hell, it's been said numerous times (some of them shown above), and EllieMurasaki has proven herself untrustworthy in this issue as she has made it perfectly clear that she's only out to "win" an argument with no regard to facts or truth. And her bigoted, discriminatory stance against new users to the site is very obvious in her stalking of my contributions page, as she seeks only to bolster her own discredited stance and distract from the fact that I have proven her wrong. I'm afraid she is under the delusion that simply being here longer "entitles" her to change anything she wants on here even if what she is doing is false and ignores clear facts. Simply being here longer does not give an "entitlement" of anything in my book nor does it make EllieMurasaki any better than I or any of the other new users here that are simply trying to make sure we have the full and complete facts here on this site, facts that EllieMurasaki wishes to ignore simply b/c she refuses to listen to reason.

I challenge you, EllieMurasaki, to tell me how the quotes posted above do not constitute a very clear, canonical, in-show indication that Lucifer's Cage is located in Hell. You tell me how you can possibly say that there is no evidence in the show itself to prove this, when I have shown you otherwise several times. I am of the mind that these quotes alone, amongst others, discredits your stubborn disbelief, and there have been other users that have agreed with me. Lucifer1987 16:16, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• rolls eyes and refuses to retype anything that's on Talk:Lucifer's Cage* —EllieMurasaki 18:09, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Rolls eyes and claps hands: You see, MissyJack? EllieMurasaki offers no legitimate, coherent explanation for her disbelief of these facts, and she has no response to them. I believe I have proven my point that she has not edited nor argued in good faith as she cannot even mount a credible defense of her actions and cannot even offer a response to point-blank evidence contradicting her. If EllieMurasaki had any credible argument, she would offer some legitimate evidence as to why she thinks the Cage is not located in Hell and why her evidence should override the quotes of a multitude of characters within the show itself. She has no evidence and no case. Lucifer1987 18:33, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Lucifer%27s_Cage&diff=39433&oldid=39431 Also, http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Lucifer%27s_Cage&diff=40041&oldid=39941 —EllieMurasaki 18:42, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

More of the same tired, worn-out disbelief....is that really all you have to offer? It's laughable, EllieMurasaki, that you think your own disbelief alone is enough to override in-show content. All you have offered is your personal, unfounded doubts that have no legitimacy. You offered no real evidence on the talk page listed above, and you have offered no credible defense of your actions here. Why? Because you failed to do so on the talk page for Lucifer's Cage, and other users agreed that you failed. You have failed to offer any real justification here beyond trying to redirect to an old forum in which you failed to make your case. That is not enough I'm afraid.

I will ask once again: Tell me exactly why in-show quotes from the characters does not prove the Cage's location? What do you have in hand that overrides those quotes? What in-show content do you possess that proves the Cage is not in Hell? There are a multitude of quotes proving it is in fact in Hell, but you have thus far failed to field even a single piece of in-show evidence to prove it is not. It's actually a very simple request, one that you have been asked repeatedly to fulfill and have thus far failed to accomplish. Lucifer1987 18:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Comparing Dean's entry and exit of hell with Lucifer's entry and exit of the cage isn't in-show evidence? Huh. I have better things to do than argue with people who don't know what 'in-show' means. (Also, Dean might be wrong when he says Sam's trip into the cage will involve Sam being in hell. Or he might be lying. He's done both before.) —EllieMurasaki 18:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....This is cracking me up. "Might be wrong", "Might be lying", "Dean's and Lucifer's entry", "if", "could", "maybe".....In other words, you have no real proof beyond your personal doubts. You have no real answer to the above quotes, and I think that Lucifer (whose cage this is) and Sam, who have both been there, would know better than you would of the Cage's location, and both have said it is in Hell. So you're telling me that Anna, Lucifer, Dean and Sam were ALL lying, all at separate times and across two seasons? Sorry, don't buy it due to the ridiculous nature of that assertion. If we went by your logic, we'd have no information we could go off of for the pages on this wiki. By your logic, we cannot take anything that's said on the show to be true at all, and that's a ludicrous and laughable view. That's not enough I'm afraid EllieMurasaki. Who ever said that the entry to Hell and the entry to Lucifer's Cage were ever the same thing, when they obviously are different? The point here is that the Cage is located down in the depths of Hell and has a separate entrance. So once again, where is your evidence that this is not the case? Real evidence, please, and not just unfounded doubting. Lucifer1987 18:56, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Seriously do you both realise how ridiculous this is to be arguing over? The next person to comment on Lucifer's Cage anywhere on the Wiki will be banned for a week. --Missyjack 19:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)