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Hi, I just wanted to say that this site is really starting to bear a lot of irrelevant pages, like the adds and such. Also, I hope you're doing well, it's been awhile. -- [[User:ImperiexSeed|ImperiexSeed]], 10:38 PM, February 8th 2012 
Hey :) Just noticed that the "Next Episode" link on [[7.10]] isn't working. Can't figure out why/how to fix it... --[[User:Crossroadsdemon|Ashley]] 18:01, 17 January 2012 (PST)
Hey :) Just noticed that the "Next Episode" link on [[7.10]] isn't working. Can't figure out why/how to fix it... --[[User:Crossroadsdemon|Ashley]] 18:01, 17 January 2012 (PST)

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Hi, I just wanted to say that this site is really starting to bear a lot of irrelevant pages, like the adds and such. Also, I hope you're doing well, it's been awhile. -- ImperiexSeed, 10:38 PM, February 8th 2012

Hey :) Just noticed that the "Next Episode" link on 7.10 isn't working. Can't figure out why/how to fix it... --Ashley 18:01, 17 January 2012 (PST)

Hi Missy I was wondering if you might know why the page watch butten is not working because when ever I come to a page that I want to add to my watchlist or remove from my watchlist a message comes up saying (An error occurred while changing your watchlist settings.) and this comes on any pages that I choose to add to my watchlist or remove from my watchlist. The problem could be from my end but I've checked and that doesn't seem to be the case. I was wondering has this problem possible happened before on the site. Oh and out of curiousity did you get a chance to read the previous message I sent to you.

From Rod12

Hello Missy, spelling question for you. On the Chronos page, the spelling of the name within the page has been changed to Kronos to match the spell text you posted. Which should it be, do you think? I'm tempted to change it back to Chronos in the non-spell text, since that is the spelling more closely associated with the personification of time. Thanks. --MisterGlass 14:01, 15 January 2012 (PST)

Hi Missy I was wondering with Actor Nicholas Lea appearing on Supernatural Recently as Eliot Ness and him having appeared on X-Files should I create a similar page like Weren't You On Battlestar Galactica? but only for Supernatural Cast and Crew that have appeared on X-Files. Normally I would just add him to the page I created Weren't You On Another TV Show? but when I have been do editing work on that page I've notice the TV Show List have been getting big for a few show. An since User:Crossroadsdemon created the page Weren't You On Battlestar Galactica? because the overall list of Supernatural Cast and Crew that have appeared on Battlestar Galactica was just to big for the main page were it would normally would go should we create more pages like that for shows that have to long of a list. For excample if a show has ten or more on its list shouldn't deserve a page like Weren't You On Battlestar Galactica?. I was wondering what you thought of the overall idea.

From Rod12

The maps are working well now, I must say. But I've noticed a lot the spam lately--I don't know how you're dealing with it all! Let me know if you could use some help. Happy new year! --Ashley 20:58, 9 January 2012 (PST)

Hi Missy. Just wanted to say I'm sorry you are having to fight the spam fight yet again, and if I could banish spam forever I would. I hope you have a happy Christmas. --MisterGlass 19:03, 22 December 2011 (PST)

The maps are working in Chrome and in Safari now--yay! The only issue seems to be that they take a while to load. To clarify, they DON'T take long to load when you navigate to the page, but after you add a map to the wiki, it takes a while for it to change from a grey box to a map. Once the map loads to the wiki, it shows up everywhere and loads quickly. At least, that's what I think is going on! --Ashley 18:12, 15 November 2011 (PST)

I see your reasoning, thanks. I originally included it because they exchanged those souls from Hell when they made it, but then I suppose it didn't turn out to be binding in the way that deals are.--MisterGlass 19:15, 12 November 2011 (PST)

Hello Missyjack, I hope life is treating you well. I see that you removed the section on Castiel's agreement with Crowley from the Deals and Pacts page. Is that because it was not a deal made by a human? --MisterGlass 18:30, 12 November 2011 (PST)

For some reason the new map isn't showing up for me (not in Chrome or Safari). It's just gray and says "Loading map..." But when I go to "Show Preview" cause I'm making changes, it shows up then. It's also showing up on the Skud user page. Thought I'd see if the problem is just on my end. --Ashley 09:16, 22 October 2011 (PDT)

Something for the homepage, maybe: the People's Choice Awards 2012 nominee selections have Supernatural listed in the "Favorite network TV Drama" and "Favorite Sci-Fi/Fantasy TV show" categories. Fans can vote here. --Ashley 23:45, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

I am so amused by the further Pie references in this episode. I didn't even think about the earlier instances of Sam "not bringing Dean pie" until earlier today when I read/edited the page, and then this... Ha! --Ashley 04:25, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, of course I respect your decision, you're an admin. But why are you leaving it, and to me, it really downplays his character by only having it say deity. I know this site is strict on canon, and that speculation isn't helpful, but he's God for crying out loud! It just makes him seem like some other god, which isn't the case. Kindly, -- ImperiexSeed, 4:07 PM, October 4th 2911

I don't really want debate this, but apparently, there's a need to, so here's what I think. Actually, it's not really my term, it obviously came from somewhere else. I full well understand the categorizations, and where they belong. Also, it's highly unlikely, at least to me, that Death could actually kill God.. Yes, he could've godly Cas, but probably not the real God. Also, it's one to believe everything the show says, and it's another to formulate your own opinions, afterall a lot of the time the shows leave it up to you to decide. So, with that, God would be the Supreme Being! -- ImperiexSeed, 3:50 PM, October 4th 2911

Hey! Just added the major actors from both SPN and BSG to the Weren't You On Another TV Show? page, but I've put together a ridiculous table of all the actors who've been on both shows, down to unnamed roles, and I have 70 actors in all. Am wondering if it warrants a separate page? Maybe after naming the main actors on the Weren't You On Another TV Show? page, there could be a link to the "exhaustive list of actors who have appeared in both Supernatural and Battlestar Galactica"? Let me know what you think? Thanks! --Ashley 03:35, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi there. I'm new here, still learning the ropes, and I'm not sure what the policy is for recommending articles for deletion. I found Early Pregnancy Symptoms Week By Means Of Full Week to have no relevance to this wiki or Supernatural in general. Wasn't able to find any template for proposing deletion or reporting spam or anything. Would you be able to point out to me what the official policy is on that? Should a template be created? Thanks for the help! matrael 20:00, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Whoops, I missed that :) I'll get it started! --MisterGlass 01:06, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello Missy! I was wondering if you have had a chance to consider my suggestion of an Alcohol page. Also, I love the "Duck Nation" page. It's so much fun. Have a nice day! --MisterGlass 01:44, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

It's okay, I totally understand. :) ImperiexSeed, 10:36 PM, August 16th 2011 About God's classification

I guess I don't get any welcome backs, then huh?! Wow! :( ImperiexSeed, 10:25 PM, August 16th 2011

I've missed you, Missyjack! ;) I apologize that I haven't been ale to make it here much, I've just been really busy on my end. Anyways, I was going to make it for the fictional locations featured in Supernatural. I was thinking I could added something similar in form as the weapontemplate, being direct details in the template itself, like where it's located, additional site/renovation information, and so on... ImperiexSeed, 10:01 PM, August 16th 2011

Another page creation question for you: would it be worthwhile to have one on alcohol? A place to bring together the purple nurple, Johnny Walker Blue, and "I found a liquor store...and I drank it"? Have a good one! --MisterGlass 01:37, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi there!! It's been a while, hasn't it? ;) Now down to business, I really think this wiki needs a locationtemplate, which boxes the important stats of information of a given location, like how object pages have their own template. I'd like to get your opinion on this. Can I create one? -- ImperiexSeed, 8:44 PM, August 16th 2011

So glad you like it!! The change to 'general labor' is a good one, I had trouble thinking of a title for that one. I have a few more to add, and it looks like Ashley found a few. Thanks for the inspiration :) --MisterGlass 01:35, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I thought that Bobby said he "buried her ashes" in the cemetery the first time around, but when I have the time I'll rewatch the ep. and check. Thanks! --MisterGlass 01:45, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Missyjack! Quick question for you: on Dead...or are they?, you removed the reference to Karen Singer having been resurrected from cremated remains; what was your reasoning for that? Thanks and have a nice day. --MisterGlass 00:55, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Missyjack in regards to how we could create such page that has information of Supernatural Actors that have appeared on other TV Show like LOST or XFiles for excample to me the best way to create the page is set the page up similar to how the Table of Death page is set up with having the sections that are used for characters, epiosodes and who killed the certain character. Simply replace the sections with the TV Shows name, the actors or actress and the characters they portrayed on the episode or some type of third section. But the other way you suggested with creating for excample a LOST TV Show page and adding all Supernatural actress and actors information to the page as well is other good plan of how we could create the page. Let me know what you think of the idea I suggested oh and we could also add writer and directors information as well to these pages if you want as well.

From Rod12

Hi Missyjack I question about a page I'm trying to find on the site here but I forgot the title of the page. The page dealt with actors or actress who have appeared on Supernatural but also have come from other shows like Lost for excample with Mark Pellegrino, Titus Welliver and Frederic Lehne for excample who were cast members that appeared on Supernatural but are also known for appearing on Lost. Basically I was wondering what the name of the page is out of curiousity.

From Rod12

Hello Missyjack. I know that you check for spam in the newly created pages section on a regular basis, but there appear to be some older spamming efforts that were slipped into the wiki. I was looking at the Special Pages tab under the toolbox, and the Uncategorized Pages list contains 50+ spam pages. I just wanted to alert you in case you were unaware. Have a good day! --MisterGlass 02:05, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I'll go ahead and work on the Costumes & Disguises picture collection, and put a "see also" link to it on the Pseudonyms page. 75 days and counting! --MisterGlass 21:15, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello Missyjack, hope you had a nice holiday. I have been looking at the Costumes & Disguises page, and wonder if it would be alright to merge it into the Pseudonyms page. They cover a similar topic, but the latter is more detailed, and could benefit from the costume pictures. --MisterGlass 16:12, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey there! I was wondering if there was anything I can do to help with the spam/vandalism pages and accounts? I have the "luxury" of working overnight shifts at my job, and alot of the time I watch the Recent Changes page and just see this junk come in wave after wave. I mean I could mark pages, delete pages, note IP addresses, whatever would help! I just hate seeing this place get crapped on. Thanks! Staxeon 04:14, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I didn't realize it was on the Cas page. I think I'll go ahead and make a small page for it of its own. --MisterGlass 00:25, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Another page creation question for you: should savecastiel.com get one? --MisterGlass 01:05, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Glad you like it! It was a fun project, I'm glad I got to work on it. --MisterGlass 22:34, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Hello Missyjack! Happy (or unhappy) Hellatus. I was looking through the library section for a page that documents the use of video devices to detect ghosts, shapeshifters, Pestilence, Jefferson Starships, etc. based on retinal flare or video distortion, and have not found one. Does such a page exist? If not, would you think it worthwhile to have one? --MisterGlass 01:01, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Dear Missyjack,

Yes, no worries, I totally understand why you did what you did to the God page, it's all good. On a side note, what did you think of the two Finale episodes, did you like them, any thoughts concerning the ending? -- ImperiexSeed, 6:56 PM, May 25th 2011

Great--thanks, hun. I'm going to go through and standardize them all when I get a chance. I think I'll keep those "____ in Supernatural" headings, too, but only because without a heading, the TOC shows up under the text and too far down the page to be visible. Of course, I could force the table of contents to appear at the top by putting it in the code at the top. Eh- I might do that... Good to hear about the high visitor traffic! :) --Ashley 00:10, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

What do you think about those "Pad of Definitions" blockquotes on the Monster pages? On some pages, like Werewolves, they can be pretty overwhelming and they don't always reflect how the monsters have been depicted in the show. I'd like to add a "Pad of Definitions" heading and move it down below the "______ in Supernatural" and "Appearances" headings - does that seem acceptable to you? See Wraith for an example. Also, when monsters only appear in one episode, I'm thinking of just having the "____ in Supernatural" heading with the episode title as the next heading. See Lamia for an example. I'd really appreciate your input on this as I continue to go through all the monster pages. Haven't finished a lot of the lesser monsters--wanted to prioritize the more common pages like Vampires and Zombies. Thanks! :) --Ashley 15:45, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi, just thought I'd let you know that on the homepage, under the synopsis for Let It Bleed, it says "Crowley takes Dean and Lisa hostage" instead of Ben and Lisa. Silvershadow6

Dear Missyjack,

First off, in regards to that page I wanted to create, I am totally okay with keeping things condensed to the Angel Lore page as far as their abilities goes, rather than branching and spreading it all out, which could take up too much space for information that could simply be documented on an already existing page. Secondly, I'm sorry for posting that comment on the 6x20 talk page, and it won't happen again. -- ImperiexSeed, 12:36 PM, May 9th 2011

Dear Missyjack,

Regarding the supernatural ability that obliterates its victims with light, often used by many supernatural creatures, throughout the show, could I create a page for it? And again, I know that you prefer that users ask you, or another admin, before renaming or creating pages, which is why I'm asking you. I was thinking we could call it something like, "Supernatural blast", "Supernatural "beam", or something else. So, can I create the page? -- ImperiexSeed, 8:24 PM, May 8th 2011

That makes sense. :) --Ashley 17:29, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I've just edited a few of the recent character pages because the recurring character template had been used for characters that only appeared in one episode. I hope this is okay--either way, I'd like it if we could keep things consistent. --Ashley 18:39, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi Missyjack I just wanted to let you know on the main page were the episode section is Crowley's name is spelled wrong on the main page it is listed as Crowlery not Crowley. Just thought I should let you know. Oh well talk to you later.

From Rod12

Dear Missyjack,

Yeah, your welcome. I just thought I'd inform you.

ImperiexSeed, 10:17 PM, April 28th 2011

Dear Missyjack,

I know that you, for the most part unless there is a really good, legitimate reason, pefer that the users of this wik to consult you or another admin before changing a page's main name. So, with that said, I would like to rename the 'Angel Banishing Sigil' page to just simply ' Angel Sigil' because lately, were are learning that there a lot of of sigils out there that are used for other purposes but are still nonetheless sigils... Unless, of course, there is already such a page. -- ImperiexSeed, 11:06 AM, April 28th 2011

I couldn't remember why the dates were bugging me so much until I found the pic I just added to the page. I now feel better about the Timeline section of the Canon Discrepancies page. Cheers :) --Ashley 14:49, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello Missy, I have a question about the Dreamwalking page. Right now it discusses dream walking by Sam and Dean in 3.10 only. Both demons and angels have appeared in dreams to communicate with characters. Would you class those encounters as dreamwalking? If so, I would be interested in adding them to the dreamwalking page. --MisterGlass 14:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Dear Missyjack,

I really appreciate your assistance, so thank thank you, and I think I resolved the problem, and as such, I think it had something to do with the catche. When I get home, I'll see if it worked or not.

ImperiexSeed, 10:54 AM, April 6th 2011

Dear Missjack,

First off, relevant to this, I am a user at Supernatural wiki and on another one called Smallville wiki. I don't know if you know what Smallville actually is but I would really appreciate your help, as I have just run into a problem just yesterday (and I have never had such a problem with that wiki before) and have been trying to figure out what's going on but has had no such luck. Please read the following.

Help notice: Lately, starting yesterday, every time I click on the Edit tab (on Smallville wiki) of any page it goes to the edit section summary but then the pages are completely blank with only random templates at the bottom in which some say protected. As a wiki contributor, do you know what that means and or what's going on? But here's what confuses me, when I go to the Recent Wiki Activity page, I see others making edits to pages. Also, on a side note, when I try to create a new user account or load some local (internal) pages the tab starts to load but than stops and the page is not displayed.... What should I do.... And at first, I encountered this problem at home but than it happened again on a different computer and on a totally different network. Any thoughts?

ImperiexSeed (ray.anderson54@yahoo.com), 8:39 AM, April 6th 2011

But I can't even edit their talk pages it too is also blank! And if they did block me, then wouldn't I have been at least notified? could you talk to them? Just go to Smallville wiki.com and sign in or just go the User:Kanamekun and tell him of my problem on his talk page?

ImperiexSeed (ray.anderson54@yahoo.com), 8:39 AM, April 6th 2011

I took care of adding those links to the InfoboxAnime template. Hope that's okay! --Ashley 17:16, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Can we add "previous episode" and "next episode" links to the bottom of InfoboxAnime template? --Ashley 21:16, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

oh, good. I'm glad something is being done about the nonsense that mocks the fandom of supernatural. On a side note, congratulations! It's no surprise really cause this is the best supernatural wiki site on the web on the only one i will contribute to. 21 March 2011 Hellhoundofhorror

Oh, sorry I was unaware. Back when i used to get on here every day I never saw any spam, EVER. I don't know what happened but things are different. 21 March 2011 Hellhoundofhorror

Dear Missyjack,

I was just wondering, can I create and make an article here titled "Teleportation", seeing as there are many other abilities here with individual pages. And honestly, I can't wait till April 15th because this whole Hellatus period is getting well... quite nerving to say the least.

ImperiexSeed 4:44 PM, March 15th 2011

I have to second Ashley, Bobby's Hats looks wonderful and in such a fun addition, as is Castiel's Trenchcoat.--MisterGlass 14:12, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

You are amazing for doing the Bobby's Hats page. I can't believe you went through and got pics of all his hats--so awesome! Hope you don't mind me changing the word "peak" to "bill"--I've never heard the word "peak" used to describe that part of a hat and couldn't find it on the wikipedia page for trucker's hat, so I thought it was probably a regional thing ;) --Ashley 21:19, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

NOTE: Thanks for the notices on spam, but I do check it via recent changes pages daily. Cheers MJ

Hey there!! I just wanted to get your consent to the following: Seeing as many characters including angels, demons and Jesser Turner can warp reality and change logic and all that is natural; I would like to create a page that defines that power, partly because the power "Telekinesis" has its own page and some other powers have their own articles too.

Anderson54, March 12th 2011

I heard somewhere that Episodes 21 and 22 are going to be conjoined story plots for Season 6.

Anderson54, February 6th 2011

No problem and I'm glad I could help! --Ashley 04:30, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

According to another Supernatural wiki, the writers of the show will carry over Raphael's ability to heal and revive as it complies with lore. If this holds true eventually, later on in the show, I speculate that he will restore Sam's soul to it state prior to its torment although this might not be possible because Death told Dean that he can't heal Sam's soul. But because we still don't know how powerful archangels are compared to Death, it's hard to say for sure. Doy you have any thoughts and or opinions on the matter?

Anderson54, February 12th 2011

Anderson54, February 8th 2011

Hey there!! Firstly, I hope you enjoyed Episode 13 as much as I did, as it was "sit-jerking", "intensively awesome" and it ended with a major "cliffhanger". And secondly, have you heard if Gabriel will be coming back into the show in the Season 6? I heard that they might do so but I haven't got a confirmation.

Anderson54, February 12th 2011

I noticed something weird going on with the Pilot episode's page. It's not showing up on the Canon category page and it's not being linked to from the "Previous Episode" link on 1.02. The contents box isn't generating...

Crossroadsdemon, February 12th 2011

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Anderson54, February 10th 2011

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Anderson54, February 10th 2011

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Anderson54, February 10th 2011

Hey there!! How are you doing? Thank you so much for leaving the Omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent page alone for the time you did, I really appreciate it. I just as of recently gathered all of the information from it that I needed. You can now delete it.

Anderson54, February 9th 2011

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Anderson54, February 7th 201

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Hey there!! Why did you remove the file called "Fallen Archangel Lucifer.jpg" from Lucifer's page?

Anderson54, February 4th 2011

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Anderson54, February 4th 2011

More spam: Facilities Construction Manager Jobs, Highway Motorway Jobs and Goverment Jobs Added This Year 2008. I think the only thing left for us to do is sing the "Spam" song. --MisterGlass 01:21, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

More spam: Florida Keys Jobs.

Anderson54, February 3rd 2011

I kind of took over the recent changes page (and I am getting seriously sick of captchas, and also did you know we have hardly any of season one transcripts on the wiki itself rather than linked from Roadhouse?), but there's some more spam: Public Health Nurse Job. —EllieMurasaki 02:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Besides the spam filters and the wiki bot, is it possible for an Admin to stop new users from creating an account here? For one thing, right now there are plenty of users here and if you could protect the special page that makes it possible for people to create accounts then our problem can be solved and you can un-block it later.

Anderson54, February 1st 2011

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Anderson54, February 1st 2011

Bartending Jobs In Toronto, wtf list did we get on that we look like a tempting spam target, and I don't know about stopping user creation but is it possible to moderate user creation? Add a box to the user-creation form that asks what one's favorite character from Supernatural is, for example, and as long as there's an actual character name in the box the application's approved? —EllieMurasaki 17:11, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Another round: Christian Ministry Jobs and Christian Media Jobs‎. Is it possible to stop all new user creation temporarily? Perhaps that would stem the tide, even though it would inconvenience real applicants. --MisterGlass 02:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

More spam: Jobs For Fresher In Bangalore.

Anderson54, January 28th 2011

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Anderson54, January 28th 2011

Yet more spam, sad to say: Christian Media Jobs From Home‎, Hawaii's Jobs That Pay Good Money‎, Credit Union Marketing Jobs In California‎. Well, at least the site traffic is up. A quarter million per month is impressive!! --MisterGlass 02:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey there!! Another spam-orientated article was created called Hawaiian Air Jobs.

Anderson54, January 27th 2011

Hey there!! Oh okay, I'm sorry for the rediretion of that page... Although I thought it made more sense and besides its other title was still active and "linkalbe" though it wasn't under that title anymore. But okay I'll consult you from now on. I would really aprreciate a "Thank You" from you as I erased all the text on some spam pages titled Cardinal Health New Mexico Jobs, Facilities Construction Manager Jobs and Credit Union Marketing Jobs. Those 3 pages still need to be deleted and I couldn't because I'm not an Admin-There may be more spam but I think I erased all of their text. I do a lot on this wiki and I need to be accepted and aprreciated! Have a nice day!! Yes, the next episode airs tomorrow!! :)

Anderson54, January 27th 2011

Hey there!! I've noticed over the course of the past few months that more and more "outside users" have been creating pages not relevant to this wiki and have been profusely inserting spam/advertisements information in them. In my mind, a major flaw here is that, anyone can edit this wiki and can create pages of any title so long as they sign up via creating an account. As you can plainly see, this can create a huge problem for this community. In coherence to all of this, I am curious what type of "bot" this wiki uses-Can the bot here be enhanced or elevated? Thank you for your time, Missyjack.

Anderson54, January 27th 2011

I erased the text on two pages that have no relevance to this wiki at all and they both contained spam information. Please deactivate these pages by deleting them. Thank you!!

Anderson54, January 27th 2011

Spam pages added: Parent List Data Product Relationships Child‎ and Applying For Dod Jobs‎. --MisterGlass 02:33, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Just wondering why you keep re-adding the slur 'queer' to pages after I have made an effort to remove the needless derogatory comment. I presume there may be a cultural difference at work here, by many people, particularily in America find this term highly offensive (both in and out of the GLBTA community) -- on par with using the "N"-word for a person of color. Since so many inoffensive options exist, I am not sure why you are insisting on using it. While many people are not offended by that term, the same is true for the N-word, and we would not refer to any of the actors with that word on this wiki, would we? Ozymandias 18:12, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

¡Ay, caramba!EllieMurasaki 18:48, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I missed the handgun, I should have gone back farther. However, I'd like to argue against it being the Colt one last time. The Colt's barrel has an octagonal cross-section, whereas Bobby's appears to have a circular cross-section. The image is fuzzy, so this alone is not a justification, but Bobby's gun also appears to have a visible ejector mechanism below the barrel in a subsequent shot, a feature the Colt lacks. It may be that Bobby is using his modern Colt .45. --MisterGlass 21:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Missy, I see a statement that Crowley was shot with the Colt has been added to the Crowley page under the Ep. 5.20 heading. I have been looking at stills, and it appears that Bobby used a very short sawed-off shotgun, Source, rather than the Colt. --MisterGlass 20:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

User:Adley339026 = spammer. —EllieMurasaki 01:03, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Currently constructing thoughts by mentally referencing episodes that portray beings that have been shot with the Colt gun but remained un-phased and or stationary, like: Lucifer, Ruby and Crowley. Any thoughts or suggestions concerning this; please feel free to aid me in this research. As it appears as if the users here overlooked occurrences of characters being shot with a Colt bullet and being perfectly fine afterwords. Although I do recall Azazel getting penetrated by a Colt bullet in the leg while occupying John Winchester.. So I think that like Ruby's knife, these types of weapons function properly when used in fatal ways.

Anderson54, January 18th 2011

Quick Question: I've never really been interested in the whole Convention aspect of Supernatural... But i am curious, can fans and the general public attend these gatherings or is there some restrictions?

Anderson54, January 18th 2011

In 5.20 The Devil You Know, Bobby Singer points the Colt's nozzle at Crowley, but Crowley remarks that it won't work on him. As an Admin, where would you like this information to be presented? It's definitely Canon although it has yet to be demonstrated. I just as of recently re-watched the episode.

Anderson54, January 7th 2011

Just wanted to say I love the pics you added to the Star Wars page. I had no idea about the gag reel clip! --MisterGlass 16:58, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

You're right, all three are referenced so often! The writers have good taste in entertainment. And obviously the brothers watch a lot of TV. I'll get them started! --MisterGlass 01:17, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello Missyjack. In looking at the 'Library' category, I see an entry for The Shining and one for Terminator 2. What do you think about adding a 'Star Wars' page? There is one with a definition of Dark side, but it contains only the definition, no information on the number of references they've made. --MisterGlass 17:05, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Is DeanWinchesterGirlxxx's page on Carmen Winstead spam? It looks like spam. It certainly doesn't look appropriate for the wiki. —EllieMurasaki 15:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey there!! How are you doing? How was your Christmas?

Quick Question - Remember when angel Castiel describes the height of his true form as being as big as The Chrysler Building? Remember when archangel Lucifer escapes the Cage, and his release shoots a very tall, bright pillar of white energy from the Convent? Do you think that it is possible that that "pillar" was his true form emerging? I do to an extent..

Anderson54, January 9th 2011

Hi Missyjack, the user you blocked, Paydayloans99, uploaded two spam photos, File:Qwe1.jpg and File:Qwe2.jpg --MisterGlass 22:51, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

In other words, speculation. Speculation I agree with, but still speculation. —EllieMurasaki 21:03, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

How do we know the meta ep is 6.15? —EllieMurasaki 13:55, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey there! You were absolutely right ins saying that a page titled "Earth" is not useful and pertains little to this Wiki, as such I request that you delete the page. Happy New Year!!

Anderson54, January 1st 2011

Missyjack, that is so exciting to hear!! I had quite a bit of fun putting it together so I'm thrilled that you liked it that much. Best wishes on a Happy New Year!--MisterGlass 01:54, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi Missyjack just out of curiousity regarding the whole issue episode transcript for The Third Man and User:Anderson54 when I originally sent him the script for The Third Man Episode so that he could work on and complete the episode transcript for The Third Man did he at all work on or complete that episode because he told me he would. But thats ok if doesn't want to do it I'm just curious if he at least work on or finished the episode transcript for The Third Man. Oh well talk to you later if your not sure regarding my question I'll ask User:Anderson54.

From Rod12

Hi Missyjack sorry for not updating you regarding the episode transcript for The Third Man I wasn't able to do it so I relocated it to User:Anderson54 since me and him have been teaming up working on the site he voluntered to do episode transcript for The Third Man since I wasn't able to get around to doing it. If you contact him he should be able to give you a better update regarding episode transcript for The Third Man. Once again sorry for not updating you and sorry I couldn't work on it I got real busy with other things on my end. Oh well talk to you later.

From Rod12

At the current time, I don't have enough time during the day to devote to transcriptions. I'm sorry. I'm a devote user of course but I can't. So I'll start on the creation of "Earth".

Anderson54, January 1st 2011

Concerning the page Earth: Yes, Earth in Supernatural verse is where natural organisms reside is main and only location where angels manifest physically in a Vessel. It also serves the battle ground for war and catastrophe amongst entities. The angels also choose Earth a land where their battle can emerge and exist. Dean states in 5x01 that they should find another planet to dominate and fight on, establishing their reign. And yes, it is relevant enough and shold become a Wiki page. And to answer your question: Yes this page would provide info concering landmarks and would dictate info on how Earth is frequently being managed, and many outside forces are trying to cgain control, trying to establish their own reign.

Anderson54, January 1st 2011

Hey there! Concerning the creation and start of a new Wiki page: I've been doing some major research throughout this Wiki, thinking and mentally constructing a page titled "Earth". I personally think that it would greatly benefit this wiki, as Earth has been played a huge part and has dominated and solely represented the landmark where humans manily inhabit and has served a location where many angels physically manifest in humans. So what do you think? Can I create a page titled Earth?

Anderson54, January 1st 2011

Hey there! I just uploaded a file called "Death's Brief Case.jpg" to this Wiki. I would like to create a page titled as such (without the .jpg portion). You told me in your last post that I should consult you before creating and constructing a new Wiki page. And I think that this page could be helpful and also because each of the Horsemen's vehicles have their own pages.

Anderson54, December 30th 2010

Hey there! I just inserted information concerning the chant or recitation that can expel angels in the Enochian page, as you requested. Also, I'm so very happy that Canon has provided us with the age difference between Raphael and Gabriel.

Anderson54, December 28th 2010

Hey there! Thanks for the references and information pertaining to the age comparison between Raphael and Gabriel. I just as of a few seconds ago added more Canon to the individual Archangel's pages concerning and relating to the ages of Raphael and Gabriel. I also added and inserted a more substantial amount of info and inserted the long bios of the four Archangels on the Archangel page under the section of the individual four Archangels. Also, I reinserted the info I posted on the Manifestation page except I left out the Cupid and Archie part like you said and I didn't reinsert the episodes which manifestation occurs.

Concerning the reference and episode in which an Enochian chant was used is documented below:

Alastair on two occasions during Season four, used and recited an angelic chant, attempting to expel Castiel from his host, which would send him back to Heaven.

Anderson54, December 29th 2010

Concerning the War and Death - I would like your opinion on the following subject: Remember when Bobby corrected the idea of the "essence of death" is different and separate from the Horseman Death? But just a few seconds ago I remembered when War told Sam that prior to Lucifer' s release, he was in multiple places at once, all of which were experiencing war of some kind, suggesting that each of the Four Horsemen are somehow interconnected with the essence of their assumed nature. What do you think?

Anderson54, December 28th 2010

I gave your requests some major thought and this is what I constructed and inserted to the page Manifestation to add relevance and to make documentations that will prove useful to users of the Wiki Community:

Key terms pertaining to Manifestation

Possession - The term "Possession" describes the process in which a supernatural entity takes over a human's body voluntarily or involuntarily depending on the entity, effectively controlling the thoughts, speech and actions of the host.

Vessel - The term "Vessel" describes a human's body that an Angel claims after the person gives the angel his or her consent, as it is required for all angels.

Enochian Chant - The term "Enochian" refers to many things concerning angels in general. There is a specific Enochian chant that can forcibly remove Angels from their Vessel, sending them back to Heaven.

Exorcism - The term "Exorcism" describes a process Demons experience that forcibly removes them from their human host, sending them back to Hell.

Binding Link - The term "Binding Link" refers to a specific bond or connection that Demons can use to bind or lock themselves inside a human's body, in which case exorcism proves ineffective against the demon within the host.

The Manifestation page has been fully and solely elaborated by me. Right now, I'm working on Places introduced in Supernatural verse such as Heaven, Hell, Purgatory and etc.

Anderson54, December 27th 2010

Hey there! I just want to inform you of a page designed and created solely by me which I titled "Manifestation". Take a look at this page - It documents and addresses the concept of how supernatural entities occur and exist on Earth through many different means such as possession, assumption or other. Please do NOT delete this page; Take a look first please and I think that you'll see Manifestation deserves its own individual page and you'll also see my ongoing effort displayed on the page!!

Anderson54, December 26th 2010 Quick Question. The exact composition and size of an angels' wings inscribed or burnt onto the Earth's surface, following the angel's death, interests me. And I was very disappointed when I viewed Zach's death because the wings he left burnt on the floor of the Green Room were two identical wings, opposed to four enormous wings as the description of his true form describes. So here's my question: Castiel finally reveals that his true form is very large, specifically compromising the length of the Chrysler Building. But compared to his angelic size, his wings are very small as seen in 4.01. Furthermore, I was also very disappointed when I viewed Gabriel's wings, mainly because he's an archangel so i assumed that his wings would be menacing and large. So, in your honest opinion, do you think that angel have small, minuscule wings in comparison with their angelic forms?

Anderson54, December 26th 2010

Oh okay. There we go. —EllieMurasaki 01:48, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Concerning information I inserted and would like you to reinsert onto Lucifer's Cage page: This Cage was designed after Lucifer's rebellion. It was built and constructed to contain archangel Lucifer because of his disobedience towards God's orders and for his lack of faith in God's plans. He was banished here by archangel Michael, and God attached 600 Seals on the Mouth of the Cage, 66 of which needed to break for the Cage to open. The gates of this prison are secured by the 66 Seals. The Four Horsemen all own an individual Ring that, together form a key-like device that when activated, can reopen his Cage. The Mouth of Lucifer's Cage is somehow interconnected with St. Mary's Convent. Although, after the activation of the Four Rings, this Cage can reopen anywhere as shown when Dean opens it in a hotel room via the Rings, and again when Sam uses the Rings and reopens the Cage at Stull Cemetery. Soon after the re-imprisonment of Lucifer and imprisonment of Michael, archangel Raphael attempts to summon them back to Earth by unspecified means so that they can end the World as scripture dictates6.03 The Third Man

Thank You!!

Anderson54, December 25th 2010

I removed the information concerning Raphael bearing authority over Zachariah, depleting some info on Heaven's page, but I also inserted well thought through info. See the following information for results on my insertion: Raphael also seemingly holds a degree of authority over other angels. Soon after the re-imprisonment of Lucifer and imprisonment of Michael, Raphael gathers a particular group of angels, and commands them to aid him in furthering his cause by helping him collect Heaven's weapons6.03 The Third Man.

Does that sound more Canonical now?

Anderson54, December 25th 2010

I tried to edit it and it told me only registered users were allowed to edit the page, a message that I have never seen on any other page even Bold textwhen attempting to edit while logged out, so whatever a registered user is, I assume I'm not one. So no, I couldn't edit it myself. I'm sorry. —EllieMurasaki 17:11, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey there! Do you think that I can reinsert the information I posted on Lucifer's Cage page? I'll leave the dates and time frames alone, as they dictate and describe Canon and presents official dates and periods relevant to the Cage..

Anderson54, December 25th 2010

Hey there! Concerning Raphael's authority and position compared to Zachariah: I must first stress that Canon has not yet presented or provided evidence stating that Raphael holds any type of authority over Zachariah. Although I must point out and stress that Canon doesn't always present info in a "straight forward" manner, for example: Canon itself never confirmed that Lucifer was an Archangel, yet we, the Users of this Wiki, all understand and have adopted the idea that he is an archangel. And we know that Zachariah receives his tasks from Michael and Raphael protects prophets.. Raphael also mentioned and indirectly implied that he is a more experienced angel and he also states that he is a professional interrogator who's imagination exceeds Zachariah's.. So, in my honest opinion, I truly believe that like the assumption that Lucifer is an archangel even though Canon yet to specifically state and confirm that he is one, it seems like a similar situation that even though Canon hasn't stated that Zachariah is subjected to Raphael due his rank we can assume that he is..

Anderson54, December 25th 2010

Hey there! I don't mean to be rude to you at all, but why did you erase all the Canonical info that I provided and presented on Lucifer's Cage page? You completely disregarded my info with no apparent.. and you have yet to reply to my previous comment.. And yes, I fathom and undestand that you are an Admin of the Wiki Foundation.. but it kind of frustrates me that you would totally disregard the info i added to the page and you just added info that you wanted.. but the info I added was completely Canonical.. even as an Admin, it makes no sense to erase Canonical info. Thanks for your time!

Anderson54, December 25th 2010

Castiel tells Dean that Lucifer is confined to a Cage and once the 66 Seals brake, he will be released and hell and chaos will follow his presence on Earth.

Fix the damn typo. —EllieMurasaki 03:19, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey there! Concerning Lucifer's Cage page: I edited the page in such a way that it appears more organized and makes more sense due to the major reconstruction I did on the page. My edits made the page more clear, and fully compromised the info within the page, and the info that I presented on the page presents Canonical information only? Due to my intervention, the page looks like this:

This Cage was designed after Lucifer's rebellion. It was built and constructed to contain archangel Lucifer because of his disobedience towards God's orders and for his lack of faith in God's plans. He was banished here by archangel Michael, and God attached 600 Seals on the Mouth of the Cage, 66 of which needed to break for the Cage to open. The gates of this prison are secured by the 66 Seals. The Four Horsemen all own an individual Ring that, together form a key-like device that when activated, can reopen his Cage. The Mouth of Lucifer's Cage is somehow interconnected with St. Mary's Convent. Although, after the activation of the Four Rings, this Cage can reopen anywhere as shown when Dean opens it in a hotel room via the Rings, and again when Sam uses the Rings and reopens the Cage at Stull Cemetery.

In your honest opinion, the information above fully dictates Canon, correct? This is only a simple recommendation, but I highly recommend that you re-lock the page so that the info I added won't be changed and so that it can't appear or resemble in another way that other users may want it to because there are user of this Wiki Foundation in particular that argue and continuously try to change the page. So it would nice if you re-locked it so that it stays completely Canonical.

Anderson54, December 24th 2010

Hey there! I'm just wondering when you or another Admin for that matter, will unlock Lucifer's Cage page? You specifically said that you will after the 11th episode airs, because we will learn and obtain further info concerning the Cage and how it operates. Happy Holidays!!

Anderson54, December 23rd 2010

Thanks, I'm glad you like it! I'll start getting my facts together. I'm happy to be a part of this wiki, so thank you for all your hard work administering it. Happy Holidays! --MisterGlass 01:32, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello Missy. I have another page creation question for you. Would it be worthwhile to create a Singer Auto Salvage page to discuss Bobby's lot and home? There is a page for the panic room already. --MisterGlass 15:41, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Great! I'll get it started. Maybe 'Deals and Pacts', sounds a little more ominous. --MisterGlass 01:26, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi Missyjack. I would like your opinion on a page idea. After seeing this last episode, I have been wondering if it would be worthwhile to have a page covering deals. In the first few seasons most of the deals with supernatural entities were made with crossroads demons, and were documented on the Crossroads Demon page. However, as time has progressed there have been deals made with a variety of beings. Dean has made two different deals with Death, John dealt with Azazel, and Sam has now made a deal with Balthazar. Do you think it would be useful to have a page listing all deals, now that they have been made with multiple entities? Thanks and have a nice day. --MisterGlass 00:51, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I intelligently predict that following the deaths of Azazel and Crowley, Samhain will soon assume leadership over Hell - He's a very powerful entity that can ONLY leave Hell through a summoning ritual that involves blood sacrifices all of which must take place on October 31st. Do you agree, or at least see why I think that? I can't think of any demon right now that has showed the strength and the stature to take over Hell, other than Azazel, Crowley, Lilith, Samhain and possibly even Alastair, all of which are dead except for Samhain. -- Anderson54, December 6th 2010

Why did you protect the 6.10 page? I was in the process of undergoing a Wiki related procedure: I was re-creating the page, adding particular formatting, and I also moved the page to a page titled "6.10 Caged Heat". It aired tonight, so why did you terminate the procedure by protecting the page?

Anderson54, December 3rd 2010

I just completed and finalized the transcript for "Family Matters". I'm not complaining but those transcripts sure do consume and use a lot of your time and energy. Well I'm off to the next transcription.

Anderson54, December 1st 2010

I just have one quick question concerning the Transcriptions - When should I insert the subsections (in Transcription "Family Matters") which are relevant to the Acts, like ACT 1, ACT 2 and etc. But other than that I've basically have everything under control concerning this Wiki but more specifically on the Transcriptions.

Anderson54, December 1st 2010

Commercial breaks. Also lemme go put your header in, you forgot it. —EllieMurasaki 03:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey there! Good News - I'm about 70 percent done with the Family Matters Transcription. I also requested they no one changes anything on this script till it's finished that way "I" can revise and then finalize it myself:) Thanks

Anderson54, December 1st 2010

Hey there! I'll do 4 or 5 scripts. Just send me the dialogue and I'll get started.

Anderson54, November 30th 2010

Hi Missyjack I'll try doing an episode transcriptions for Season 6 I don't know how I'll do but I'll be happy to try an attempt at one of them. If you have the Third Man Script I'll do that one thats one of favorite episodes so far this season. Oh and thanks and for the kind words about editing here on the site always happy to help out. Oh and its nice to final get a chance to talk to you. Oh well talk to you later.

From Rod12

I'll Do The Scripts:)

Anderson54, November 30th 2010

Sure - Just send me the scripts for the episodes that need the script editing and I'll do them in their entirety.

Anderson54, November 30th 2010

Hey there! When are you going to unlock/unprotect the page titled "Lucifer's Cage"? It has definitely been enough time for those two users to have worked out and resolved their problems through management to which the current Users of this Wiki Foundation deserve the page to be unlocked (But it's up to you though). It's been locked since the 30th of October. I'm not trying to obligate you to unlock it I'm just stating facts which are relevant, but I do honestly believe that it's been long enough. I not trying to configure and bring forth a debate I'm politely asking a simple and direct question.

Anderson54, November 30th 2010

Hey there! Thanks for the recommendation concerning Gabriel's Vessel information. I'll definitely give it some deep and structured thought on whether or not his page actual needs an entry like that on his current page:)

Anderson54, November 29th 2010

Hey there! I just got done finishing adding Canon to the following Articles concerning the unknown age in relation to Raphael and Gabriel: Archangel, Raphael and Gabriel. Those pages now hold the same information concerning the age discrepancies.

Anderson54, November 28th 2010

Sadly enough I didn't come across ANY canonical statements which could help me determine whether or not Raphael is older or younger than Gabriel. However I did notice a verbalized and inner trend which seemed to be fluent and consistent: They way Raphael interacted and spoke with Dean and Castiel made it quite apparent that he may be older than Gabriel to which I deduced just by his posture and maturity level to which concerned his out look on his own family. Whereas Gabriel's posture seems to present a lower quantity of maturity: He was too afraid to stand up to Lucifer, and unlike Raphael, he abandoned his angelic family whereas Raphael stayed within the Host despite the ongoing chaos, and Gabriel found it amusing to condem people through pranks that ironically fit their crime, proving his low maturity.

Anderson54, November 27th 2010

I'll go re-watch the episodes which feature Archangel Raphael and from the info presented through the episodes themselves, I'll deduct and consciously determine whether or not he's younger or older than Archangel Gabriel. Or it might never be truly revealed to us, whose knows? But I honestly think that if I re-watch these particular episodes I more than likely will find some measure to which I can deduce that he is one or the other: younger or older than Gabriel. I'm generally really good about retaining all specified details that the show has provided through canon.

Anderson54, November 27th 2010

Yes, I completely understand and fathom that this Wiki Foundation is a multi-authored site. But the four individual pages concerning the four Archangels all needed major re-visions and I had to reconstruct their pages so that the text would appear through presentation to be fluent and consistent. So yes, other editors are more than welcome to edit their pages, but it would be nice if they would leave their origin info alone, mainly because the origin info is set in stone, meaning that I highly doubt any more info will be presented concerning their origin and creation. But like I said previously, they are more than welcome to edit their pictures, episode concerned details, and other stuff. And I know that you're an Admin, and I didn't mean to question your stature and authority:)

Anderson54, November 27th 2010

Hey there! Why did you re-fabricate (change) Raphael's page? All of the information that was presented there was completely canonical and adequate with the show itself. I kindly request that you DO NOT change the other Archangel pages like you just did with Raphael's page! For one, there was in fact canon within Raphael's page, and I'm completely lost as to why you changed it in the first place. Michael, Lucifer and Gabriel's pages are all setup like that, but the info there is all canonical, I mean just read the text carefully and you should understand that there is in fact canon related info on their pages. I'll leave Raphael's page alone but PLEASE don't change the others like that, thanks:)

Anderson54, November 27th 2010

Just on a side note, why did you delete the section titled "Creations and Designs" on God's page? It was all canonical information though. And I far as I'm concerned there was NO SPECULATION under the Creations and Designs section!

Anderson54, November 21st 2010

If you do have some worries concerning how the individual pages of the four archangels are setup please talk with me first before you revert or change the info presented there. And the information presented there is totally canonical, accurate and adequate.

Anderson54, November 21st 2010

Hey! I just finished Michael and Lucifer's page layouts; I also finalized them so please DON'T switch anything on their pages concerning the page layouts:) And if you do have some worries concerning how the individual pages of the four archangels are setup please talk with me first before you revert or change the info presented there.

Anderson54, November 21st 2010

Hello again! I just want to inform you that User:Rod12 and I are going to reorganize and reconstruct the four individual pages of the four archangels. More specifically, they will be setup up like this:

History and Origin

Season Four (If Applicable)

Season Five

Season Six (If Applicable)

Powers and Abilites





Anderson54, November 21st 2010

So what does it take for a Super-Wiki user to become an Admin? I would really like to become one, my skills and my Supernatural orientated knowledge is adequate. And I know that I'm a relatively new user, but I have seen every episode to date and I can't block users who chose to vandalize this wiki foundation, one such user being Temperance. Please post your thoughts and answer on my discussion page.

Anderson54, November 19th 2010

I restored both pages and reinserted the current information presented there. You should really block User:Temperance because of his lack of common sense and because he clearly vandilized two major pages. I would personally block him now but I'm not an Admin. Please block him soon!

Anderson54, November 19th 2010

Hey there! I just wanted to inform you that a user by the name of User:Temperance is vandilizing this Wiki - He erased all of the words on Dean's page as well as Sam's. Also, there's something I would like to discuss with you concerning this Wiki's protection.

Anderson54, November 19th 2010

Addendum to the transcripts thing. What about having two transcripts per ep? Like "1.01 Pilot (transcript 1) from a first-time viewer's perspective" and "1.01 Pilot (transcript 2) from a repeat viewer's perspective", and the second one could identify Azazel in the opening scenes, name Constance at her first appearance instead of waiting till the boys look her up, maybe insert the deleted scene where Dean turns the car around where it belongs chronologically (because the ep makes more sense with that scene in place). —EllieMurasaki 15:16, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Hello again! So how are you enjoying Season six so far? It’s been awesome so far, and on a side note: Do you think that I could change Castiel's picture so that it presents Castiel01.jpg (I changed his profile picture a number of times, but unfortunately, people keep reverting it back to the same dull caption)? The current one is really bugging me: For one thing, the picture is really large and the other File is overall a better depiction of him.

Anderson54, November 17th 2010

Hi there! Firstly, I hope that you're enjoying Season six as much as I am. Secondly, why do we have a "Demonic Possession" page but not an "Angelic Possession" page? The occurrence of them has been consistent, which is why it makes sense to add the page.

Anderson54, November 12th 2010

Hi! About the Debriel thing. I mostly saw it used on Twitter (I have plenty of Dean/Gabriel friends from the LJ comm), I didn't see if anyone else was using it outside of the comm and Twitter. It kinda came from Destiel I suppose :D. I think I even saw it used on YT, but I have no idea which video right now. If I happen to stumble upon something I send you a link :) It's not that highly spread probably (since not even the pairing is that highly spread). ~Scyllaya, November 11th 2010

Hey, do you think that God will appear sometime during the course of season six?

Confused Koopa Kid, November 9th 2010

RE Lucifer about the Colt:

Well first of all, it makes no sense to incorporate God as one of the five creatures that can't be killed with the Colt. God was never created; therefore he should be not connected or linked to created beings. But because he is The Creator, it is highly assumed that the Colt can't kill him anyway.

And secondly, I would assume that the Colt can kill/destroy White- Eyed Demons, and here's why: The Colt killed Azazel who appeared to have been stronger than Lilith herself.

And thirdly, I highly disagree with the speculation that Angels are immune to the Colt's affects. Castiel himself thought that the only thing that could destroy Lucifer aside Michael and God was the Colt; that vaguely shows that Castiel "knows" that the Colt can in fact kill an angel so he thought that it might work against Lucifer.

Confused Koopa Kid, November 7th 2010

Been thinking. Illustrative case in point, 1.01 Pilot (transcript) currently reads:

MARY walks down the hall to SAM's nursery. JOHN, seen only in silhouette, stands over SAM's crib.

I think we'd do better to have that bits read:

MARY walks down the hall to SAM's nursery. AZAZEL stands over SAM's crib; he is seen only in silhouette, so MARY and first-time viewers think he's JOHN.

Possibly without the 'and first-time viewers' bit, possibly with 'someone' instead of 'Azazel'. Also, in 3.11 Mystery Spot (transcript), acknowledging that the pancake man is the Trickster in disguise at the first appearance of the pancake man, rather than waiting until Richard Speight Jr. makes his appearance. Point is, writing the transcripts from the point of view of someone who has seen all the episodes, or at least the entirety of that episode, rather than from the point of view of someone who knows nothing about the episode before reading the transcript. Good idea, bad idea, Ellie you idiot there are people who hit the transcripts with screenreaders rather than playing the episode, or what? —EllieMurasaki 21:38, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me. Are you going to reply to my comments any time soon?

Confused Koopa Kid, Nov 1st 2010

Do you mind putting the 6.06 section of Lucifer's Cage back the way I had it?

Dean tells Bobby that Sam has been different ever since he was released from the Cage. At first, he thought that Sam might have been Lucifer since Sam's release between 5.22 Swan Song and 6.01 Exile On Main St.. But Castiel denies this, and says that if Lucifer was on Earth, they would have felt his presence.

Also, more spam. What Are Ugg BootsEllieMurasaki 02:10, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

As long as we are putting things back on Lucifer's Cage, I'd like to request that a well-known fact (that the Cage is located in Hell) be restored as well. Canonical evidence of this appears below, and no amount of disbelief and bluster from EllieMurasaki changes the fact that said pieces of evidence do exist. Lucifer1987 20:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Again with the spam. How to Clean UGG SlippersEllieMurasaki 21:48, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

I have been thinking long and hard about whom else can't be killed by the Colt gun. Here is my speculation on the matter.

Lucifer, God, Death, Jesse Turner and Michael

So what's your opinion?

Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 30th 2010

I've been doing some in-depth research on disease manipulation as it appears in the Supernatural verse. So far, the only account in which it appears is in 5.21 and 6.03. Only the Staff of Moses and Pestilence can manipulate plagues and diseases. But after Lucifer was released from his Cage in 5.01, swine flu suddenly spreads and kills many people. So can Lucifer control diseases too, or was it Pestilence who did this? It is quite likely that it was Pestilence, mainly because when Lucifer was freed from Hell, War's "beeper went off", so it leads me to assume that Pestilence was also altered when the Devil arrived on Earth, in which he caused the spread of the swine flu in 5.01.

Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 30th 2010

Hello again! Is Gabriel's Horn of Truth an actual weapon? I would assume so because, Castiel tells Dean that it’s not on Earth and that something else is invoking humans to speak the truth. So should I add a page that concerns the weapon? It is an actual angelic tool after all.

Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 30th 2010

Hello, a new spam page was added at 05:38: Now enjoy nfl redzone on dish network‎. --MisterGlass 14:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I just have a quick question for you. In episode 6.03 The Third Man, near the end, did you notice the guy who had a frog stuck in his throat? As an observer, I noticed that this guy's clothing (expensive suit, tie, and nice pants) suggests that he was a "Henchman angel". This then brings forward the question: Can angels be affected by the power of the Staff of Moses? In my opinion, I would've said yes at first. But then I remembered episode 5.21 Two Minutes To Midnight; Pestilence was shocked when he saw that his power (Pestilence's powers are very similar to that of the Staff of Moses) affected Castiel, who is an angel; then he realized that Cas was powerless. So these two theories contradict one another. What's your opinion? So when you get a chance, please post your opinion on my discussion page. Thanks

- Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 26th 2010

I'm so but I have another question. Do know if we'll being seeing a Horesman in season 6?

- Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 13th 2010

I don't want to spoil anything for you, but, I heard from a user that, Gabriel might return somehow in season six. Do you know if that's accurate or not?

- Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 13th 2010

I just added "Do the four Archangels represent elements?" to my user page. You should take a look at my thoughts and theories posted there.

- Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 12th 2010

In your opinion, do you think it would relevant to create a page called Manipulation? I personally think that it would be, mainly because; a large majority of the creatures in Supernatural can manipulate a great number of things. For Example: Michael can generate/control fire, Lucifer can freeze objects simply by breathing on them (suggesting that he can control/generate the ice element), The Four Horsemen can generate/focus their main powers through their rings at will. So, in my opinion, I honestly believe that a page titled "Manipulation" would be completely relevant to the show, seeing as most "Super-Creatures" can control elements or can focus their powers in such a way that make it seem like a form of manipulation.

Thanks for your time! Please post your answer/opinion on my Discussion Page.

- Confused Koopa Kid, Oct 12th 2010

More spam. Wear Pink Ugg Boots to Steal The Limelight. (Also the wiki's complaining about this page being more than 32kb.) —EllieMurasaki 14:28, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks for editing down my synopsis of 6.02 Two And A Half Men. I went a little overboard and couldn't figure out what to cut... I think I've gotten a little too excited what with watching Supernatural in real time now. The week between each episode might just kill me ;) --Ashley 1:00, 3 October 2010 (EST)

Hello there, it looks like a spam page was created this morning: 2011 Wedding Gown Trends‎. It looks like an advertisement. I find no reference to Supernatural weddings...which would be fun to see. --MisterGlass 14:15, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi there, I so psyched about tomorrow.... The sixth season starts!

- Confused Koopa Kid, September 23rd 2010

In fairness, User:Tatt1e doesn't seem to be a spammer. Only edit that user made before getting blocked was factually incorrect and I'm about to go fix it, but it wasn't spam. —EllieMurasaki 01:23, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi, we've got at least three spammers, check recent changes. Probably more than three spammers, but the other new accounts with crazy names haven't done anything but create accounts. —EllieMurasaki 21:53, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello, thank you very much for the info about the blog, I'll definitely stop by. Have a nice day! -- MisterGlass 00:49, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi there,

I can't wait for season six! I read your message, and I will definitely check out the Super-Wiki Blog.

SonicShocker, 11:05 AM, August 28th 2010 (UTC)

Seems to me there should be deletion of File:EmmaWatson9b.JPG. —EllieMurasaki 06:25, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello! It looks to me like a spam page was added on 6th August at 12:50 by Megacooler43. -- MisterGlass, 13:33, August 7th 2010 (UTC)

Hey MissyJack,

I just created a page which concerns Anna's adoptive parents, which I titled Mr. and Mrs. Milton.

I have a quick question for you.

If I remember correctly, wasn't Anna's adoptive father named Richard or Roger?

SonicShocker, August 5th 2010 (UTC)


Charon created a page titled Nephilim; I told him/her that it is not canon-related and that it shouldn't be on this Wiki. Could you delete the page?

SonicShocker, August 1st 2010 (UTC)

Hi there,

I moved the Cherub page to a page which I retitled Cupids. I also think that it would be helpful to this Wiki if I deleted the Cupid page all together and moved some of its info to Cupids page. What's your opinion?

SonicShocker, 8:53 PM, July 28th 2010


I removed all Cupid's info. However, I didn't officially delete the page, and I know that only an Admin can delete pages. Could you help me out by deleting Cupid page? I mean, most of the info was on both pages, so to me, it made no sense to have two separate pages for the same info.....

Hey do you think you could find a pic of War, Famine, Pestilence and Death's Rings in merge form?

GrammarKing, July 20th 2010 (UTC)

Hey MissyJack, take a look The 66 Seals page; a righteous man is defined as a potential Vessel for Michael, so I was correct. --GrammarKing, July 20th 2010

Hey MissyJack, John Winchester was supposed to break the First Seal, according to Alastair, correct? So than wouldn't that make him the True Vessel of Michael, and not Dean? Even though Dean did break the first Seal, it was suppose to be John, so wouldn't Dean be a plan b Vessel; John was intended to break the first seal.

In 5.17 99 Problems, Dean being one step closer to assenting to Michael, made him a Servant of Heaven, correct? But wouldn't John be more of a Servant of Heaven than Dean, I say this mainly because he resisted Al for 100 years in Hell and never gave into his offers, where as Dean did. -- GrammarKing, July 20th 2010

Hey MissyJack, is it true that the air date of an episode corresponds with dates in Supernatural? For example: The air date of 4.17 It's A Terrible Life is March 26th 2009, so is it canonical to say that Zachariah first appeared on March 26th 2009, or are they totally separate from each other? The main reason I'm asking this is I want to add the dates of Zachariah's first appearance to his page. -- GrammarKing, July 20th 2010

In biblical lore, Pestilence is traditionally known as the "White Horseman", correct? But in Supernatural, he drives a green car and he wears a ring with an emerald in the center. So wouldn't it be more canonical to say that he is the "Green Horseman"? I mean, all of the other horsemen have color titles that match their car's color. For example: Famine is also known as the "Black Horseman" because he drives a black car. -- GrammarKing, July 19th 2010

Lately I've been re-watching episodes from the fifth season. I just saw 5.10 Abandon All Hope for the second time last night. And something strange caught my attention. When the Devil summoned Death, did you see wings sprout outward after Death ascended from his "box"? I did. I think Death is more angelic than demonic. I really would like to know your opinion. If you agree with me then I'll post this on his page . -- GrammarKing, July 15th 2010

well, yeah he is angelic because War is cast to Earth from heaven as a star known as wormwood. So would his other three brothers be angelic to? and no one ever hinted that they were anything "demonic". they are just their to bring on the apocalypse, whether the victor be heaven or hell


When was Lucifer clarified as being an archangel? Lucifer told Nick that he's an angel. So shouldn't we post that on his occupation section? This is really bugging me. Gabriel told Dean and Sam that he is an archangel. Castiel told Dean that Raphael is an archangel. But no one ever said Lucifer is an archangel.-- GrammarKing, July 7th 2010

yeah but it says many times that gabriel, and michael are his brothers. Angels, however, have never once mentioned that they are "brothers", and when the archangels said it, you could feel the family bond


Happy Fourth Of July!

Did you watch the fireworks?

In my opinion, I believe Chuck is God, mainly because: Chuck the Prophet was only able to see the Winchesters' future..... However in episode 5.22 Swan Song, he tells us that Bobby with soon be hunting a rugaru. It seems to me like Chuck is God. I really would like to know your opinion.

In 5.16 Dark Side Of The Moon, Why didn't Michael try to locate Dean and Sam while they were in Heaven? I really would like to know your opinion. -- GrammarKing, July 3rd 2010


I don't understand why God resurrected Castiel but not Gabriel. He's already resurrected Cas twice already, but for some odd reason He didn't revive Gabriel after he died. Why? Do you have any thoughts on this matter? If so, please post them on my Talk Page. -- GrammarKing, July 3rd 2010


I would greatly appreciate it if you would un-lock the Demonology page. I need to make some edits. -- GrammarKing, July 2nd 2010


You should really check out my self-written overview of Season 5. I have posted Episodes 1-3 so far. -- GrammarKing, July 2nd 2010


I just recently added a self-written overview of Season 5 onto my User page. You should check it out. GrammarKing, June 29th 2010


I can't wait till Season 6. I apologize for my "unnecessary" pic uploading, my mistake. I was not aware that Supernatural Wiki has to pay for funds as well as the images displayed on this Wiki. I will try to keep my pics as Supernatural related as possible. Is there any way I could delete some of the pics that I uploaded? I know there is a deletion log on this Wiki - I hear that only an Admin can delete a page. GrammarKing, June 29th 2010


RE: Lucifer describes his and Sam's partnership (pairing) as a union. He says that they were always meant to be together. He said they are two halves made whole - MFEO. Does this not meet the criteria/standards for Supernatural Pairings? -- GrammarKing, June 19th 2010


I find it hard to fathom that Zachariah, the great Seraph, was killed with a Normal Angel Killing Blade. Does this seem odd to you too? I mean, I didn't like Zachariah's attitude (some Supernatural fans refer to him as the "prick angel" because of his rude stature and petty nature), but how could a "normal angel killing blade" work on him?


GrammarKing, June 19th 2010

I'm very confused. Why did you change the info that was documented on the page titled "Lucifer's Cage"? I mean all of the information that was on the page was completely canonical, or am I mistaken? The info that I am referring to is documented below.

"Lucifer's cage was designed by Angels. God got tired of Lucifer’s constant defiance to His orders, so, God banished Lucifer to Earth. In a violent rage, Lucifer decided to anger God by twisting a Human soul into a Demon. This demon was named Lilith. After this, God sent Michael down to Earth to condemn his younger brother to an abyss. Michael banished Lucifer to this abyss after defeating him in an angelic Battle. This abyss was locked with 600 Seals. Only 66 of the 600 had to be broken in order for Lucifer to be released. Near the end episode 5.22 Swan Song, Michael and a "controlled" Lucifer (Sam) fell into this endless Chasm. At the very end of 5.22 Swan Song, Sam was seen out side of Lisa's house underneath a lamp. Lucifer's Cage seems to be located in a whole separate dimension. Even the most powerful of beings can be held here. Lucifer was kept incarcerated in this cage due to 600 Seals. When 66 of the 600 Seals were broken he was set free to deceive the Nations. Michael and Lucifer fell into Lucifer's Cage near the end of episode 5.22 Swan Song. They are currently being held here even with the locks disabled (the 66 Seals)."


GrammarKing, June 12th 2010

I've been doing a lot of research on the grand Ambassador of Heaven. He is an angel who holds immense power and wisdom. His name is Metatron. I was so disappointed that he didn't make an appearance in the fifth season. I assume that there were many reasons to his non-appearance. The main reason may have been that Michael was so similar to Metatron that they didn't need him to appear in season Five. Do you have any thoughts on the matter? --GrammarKing, June 6th 2010


I always get a good laugh at the comics issued at http://www.VGcats.com.... Have you been to this website? If not, I highly recommend it; you shouldn’t be disappointed. The comics posted there are hysterical.


GrammarKing, MAY 30th 2010 (UTC)

I have one quick question. In your opinion, what do you think will happen to Death now? Will he appear somewhere down the road in season Six? I ask all of this because: If the Antichrist is in fact the new antagonist of season Six, then wouldn't Death be involved somehow? And in my humble opinion, I believe that they should've done more with the Antichrist in season Five.... I mean, the Antichrist plays a major role in the book of Revelations.... So, then how does it make sense to place him aside from Judgment Day? It doesn't, I'm I right?


GrammarKing, MAY 28th 2010 (UTC)

CASTIEL: Even if you could...kill Sam, Satan would just bring him back to life.

ANNA: Not after I scatter his cells across the universe.

ANNA: They'll never find him. Not all of him.

– Anna Milton, 5.13 The Song Remains The Same

Raphael's teleportation power - Didn't Anna imply that Lucifer could make an attempt to find all of Sam's missing molecules that she wants to spread across the Universe? The only way to do that is by teleportation, is it not? So then one would be led to believe that the Three other archangels could do the same...


GrammarKing, MAY 27th 2010 (UTC)

I tried uploading the pic called Lucifer's_Prison.jpg. Unfortunately, this particular pic was either corrupt or it had a bad intention. Could you help me upload this pic? I would greatly appreciate it.


GrammarKing, MAY 27th 2010 (UTC)

Can I post my Jesus theory/speculation to God's page? It's bugging me to see that it's not included anywhere on His page. I honestly believe that Chuck was containing JC during 5.22 Swan Song..... And, I could've sworn I saw Chuck's eyes twinkle bright yellow before he vanished. Do you catch that?


GrammarKing, MAY 27th 2010 (UTC)

There have been many opinionated theories on whether or not Chuck is God - In my honest opinion, I believe that Chuck was briefly possessed by JC (Jesus Christ) during the events in 5.22 Swan Song.... What's your opinion on the matter? It seems weird to think that Chuck was God the whole time - I mean the Chuck from 4.22 Lucifer Rising seemed like an entirely different person than the one in 5.22 Swan Song.


GrammarKing, MAY 26th 2010 (UTC)

I can't wait till the sixth Season airs. I'm on the verge of insanity. It's probably just my lack of patience. Har har har! On a more serious note: The sooner the sixth airs, the sooner I will be satisfied.


GrammarKing, MAY 26th 2010 (UTC)

Do you have any thoughts on what Season Six will be about? Something huge is going to take place in the Sixth Season.... I can feel it, can’t you? I mean that way 5.22 Swan Song ended I’d say there’s a pretty good chance that the Antichrist will be the new antagonist of Season Six.

GrammarKing, MAY 24th 2010 (UTC)

Some user keeps adding the pic {File:LuciferSam1.jpg} to Lucifer's Bio page. However I highly disagree with this post. Lucifer as of this date has yet to possess Sam Winchester. It was predicted by Zachariah that one day (2014) Sam Winchester would consent to Lucifer. However, he has yet to do this during the present. Although, I did post the pic {File:LuciferSam1.jpg} along with a short thumbnail under 5.04 The End on Lucifer's page. It would be wise if you or another Wiki User protected that page by blocking certain eidts.

Anderson Writer, MAY 13th 2010 (UTC)

In your honest opinion, do you believe that Chuck is God? There has been a lot of controversy on this matter. Many users are posting their thoughts and theories on His Talk page. Anderson Writer, MAY 17th 2010 (UTC)

There is much more to learn lets talk.

What's up Missy? That last Episode was awesome, wasn't it? Michael's finally here, yippee. Well see ya.


Anderson Writer


The Character page titled "Young John Winchester" is a relatively recent page. This character has played two major roles in Canon, the first was in 4.03 In The Beginning and he appeared again in 5.13 The Song Remains The Same. I created the page titled Young John Winchesters; I made it separate from the page titled John Winchester, because I thought that in a canonical sense their two different characters, for this character did appear twice. At first I thought it would be Wiki appropriate, but I think your input and opinion will be helpful to me and help me edit this Wiki with more accuracy. I also did the same for Young Mary Winchester. Please post your opinion and thoughts on my Discussion page.


Later missy

Anderson Writer, FEB. 8th 2010

HI there,

Thank you for your great and helpful input! It is Greatly Appreciated. I will certainly work on creating less add-ons; Meaning, if there is already an existing page to a certain character, I will try to just add onto that existing page rather than creating a new seperate page.

Later missy

Anderson Writer, FEB. 8th 2010


I did move the info from the page titled "Young John Winchester" and added it to John Winchester; under John as a young man. I will do the same for "Young Mary Winchester".


Thank u for deleting the "young John" page. I can't wait till Thursday night; this episode should be very interesting. I was curious, after this upcoming episode, when does Season 5 start up again. Do you think that season five will stop at Episode 22? Let's hope for a Season 6.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, FEB. 10th 2010


I was just wondering, did it mention in 5.14 as to whether or not Cupids need vessels?

It was very an interesting episode, don't you agree? I thought is was some-what weird, but good too.

Anderson Writer

Some pages I think are interesting would be:

Angel Garrison
Angel Lore
The Colt
& the Pad of Definitions

Hope that helped,



I was wondering if u knew anything about the upcoming episode? I'm guessing probably not, because it to far away to know.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, FEB. 16th 2010

I just finished with Supernatural S1 for Characters Count Wiki. (Results: the cast of characters is a little under forty percent female and about fifteen percent nonwhite, and the female characters speak to each other about subjects other than men depressingly few times and the characters of color speak to each other about subjects other than white people not once in the whole damn season. You'd think Route 666, at least, would pass the race Bechdel, considering that the premise of the ep is look how racist the show creators are not, but no such luck.) I'm wondering where would be an appropriate place to link to that from the SuperWiki, or if I should duplicate the content over here, and if so where I should put it. Thanks! —EllieMurasaki 17:27, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


I was just looking at some of Season 5 transcripts, the most recent episodes are in need of transcripts. I don't me to rush you, I just wanted to point out that these transcripts have been blank for at least 2 weeks.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer FEB. 17th 2010


I was curious and just thought that I should ask you before I do this.

Could I by chance change Zachariah's Occupation to High Ranking Angel and erase the archangel bit? I mean it still hasn't been clearly explained as to his true job/career, we do know that he's an angel of high rank.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, FEB. 17th 2010


Do u think that u could add more recent pics to Sam and Dean's recurring character template? I mean sam's pic on his character template was taken from Season 1.


I’ve been thinking and re thinking this scenario:

It was just recently illustrated in 5.13 The Song Remains The Same, that although this Enochian-like-inscription can hide them from all angels, apparently not from Michael. Michael seemingly found them in the year of 1978 without any troubles; he also appeared right when John was about to die and also when Mary was in danger. If these angel inscriptions could hide them from "All" angels, than Michael couldn't have appeared right when he did.

Could I post this on the Enochian page??? I mean it's all Canon based info, and there's no speculations within this scenario.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, FEB. 18th 2010


I apologize for my late replies. I was just doing some research on Wikipedia, I found out that the Horseman Pestilence is just another name for Death, is this true? Just recently I erased the name "Pestilence" from the Recurring Character Template, more specifically under the name section. Should I restore this bit of Info, should I wait till more comes to light, and restore it then?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, FEB. 23rd 2010


Nice going on the Transcript progress.

Anderson Writer, FEB. 24th 2010


I'm kind of irritated that there will not be a new episode airing tonight. Lately I’ve been concentrating on Azazel and his background. I just recently have come up with an interesting scenario, I was curious if you knew the answer to this:

The Writers and producers of Supernatural have hinted and suggested that every Demon in the show were once human. This got me thinking that if Azazel was once human, couldn't he have had children? I think that he was once human and he had children, these children in my opinion were turned into Demons just like their father Azazel. I mean aren't all Demons brothers and sisters? The only sensible way for this to make sense is if Azazel was once human, and that he along with his children (Meg & Tom) were some how turned into Demons; Isn’t Lucifer the father of all demons? I'm not going to post this, however I thought it would be interesting to hear your opinion on the matter.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 4th 2010


It seems that lately more and more Users are creating Wiki accounts and BIO's. This is great for the Wiki.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 4th 2010


I apologize for not replying to your E-mails that you have sent to my E-mail Account. Lately it hasn't been working properly, it says that I need to check and revise my account security.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 4th 2010


Just for now it would be helpful if you left your messages on my Discussion page instead of posting them on my E-mail account. Hopefully I figure out the solution to this E-mail crisis.


Pestilence should be making an appearance in the 20th Episode. This has not yet been confirmed, but it has been said that an actor by the name of Matt Frewer is suppose to portray this Horseman.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 7th 2010


I apologize for my spoilers; I'll try to stay away from them.


Lately, I’ve been thinking of Episode Definitions. The story of Cain and Abel came to mind; I thought that I should ask you before creating and constructing this page, could I create a page in reference to Cain and Abel? They were mentioned by Michael in 5.13, and they are mysteriously connected to Sam and Dean as Michael told this to Dean. In a way their very similar to Sam and Dean, their both brothers, one eventually betrays the other and eventually kills his brother; this is very ironic and quite parallel to Dean and Sam's destiny, as Gabriel said, one brother with have to kill the other.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 8th 2010


The show has yet to confirm the idea that Raphael is part of the angelic group called The Host of Heaven. If the show did confirm this, I must have missed it. Please reply by leaving a message on my Discussion page if the show did confirm this. Thanks!

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 8th 2010 (UTC)


I was curious if you knew whether or not God will make a physical appearance in this show? It wouldn't make sense logically if he did happen to make an appearance, I mean, there is a Sixth Season coming up, and if God showed himself in the Fifth Season wouldn't that signify the end of the world?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 10th 2010 (UTC)


Do you think that the future that was explained in 5.04 The End will actually come to pass? I hope not. If this future were true wouldn't that mean Michael would be gone for good? (He did leave with the rest of the Host) Michael told Dean that he will say yes to him with no doubt; in my opinion, if Dean consented to Michael before Sam consents to Lucifer than wouldn't this mess with the supposed future events that Zachariah predicted? If God did appear before this supposed-future came to pass he could prevent this future from actually happening. Or if he appeared after this future event he could put things back to normal; he could resurrect Dean and eliminate Lucifer.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 11th 2010 (UTC)


You must be very busy. I don't mean to pry but you haven't replied to my comment that I posted on MARCH 11th 2010. If you happen to read this please reply back to me. Just out of curiosity have you recently heard from User:Cancerouschime? He too has not posted me recently.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 14th 2010 (UTC)


You might want to check out my BIO section on the front page of my User account. It's awesome. Just a side question, are other users allowed/supposed to edit other people's BIO pages? If so, is there any way I could secure/protect my accounts content? I did happen to copy and paste all of my accounts content onto a Microsoft Word Document.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 15th 2010 (UTC)


How should I go about setting protections onto my BIO page on my User account? How do you set protections on an account?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 15th 2010 (UTC)


I noticed that you just protected my account. Thanks a bunch!


I'm trying to upload a pic titled 'WikiLogo.Jpg' onto my User page. Unfortunately, when I put all of the pics info on the page titled "Upload File" it said the following: "The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again." Could you help me out? I am trying to post the idea on my User page that I’m a PROUD member of Smallville wiki.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 16th 2010 (UTC)


I've come up with a very interesting theory.


I think that the Five Things In All Of Creation that can't be killed with the Colt is listed below:

1.Lucifer (Proved in Canon)




5.Jesse Turner

What's your opinion on this matter? Who do you think are the 5 things that can't be killed with the Colt?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 16th 2010 (UTC)


I have been very busy lately, so unfortunately I missed Episode 15 of Season 5. I would greatly appreciate it if you could give me an overview of Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MARCH 30th 2010 (UTC)


Is it true that Hell is frozen du to lucifer's abscence?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 1st 2010 (UTC)


Last night's Episode was phenomenal. I am continuously thinking about one of the things that Zachariah said, which was "In Heaven I have six wings and four faces, one of which is a lion", I happen to know that in Biblical Lore Seraphims are described as having six wings. Do you happen to know if he is an actual Seraph? Please do reply back when you get the chance.

'Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 2nd 2010 (UTC)


5.16 was an awesome Episode, I loved it! A lot of info concerning Heaven was finally leaked in this episode. I was wondering if I should add Zachariah's entire episode list onto the Seraph page (under the Episode Template)? I am asking this because it remains unconfirmed as to whether or not Zach is an actual Seraph, so I feel kind of reluctant to add it. We are coming closer and closer to the FINAL episode; I noticed in 5.16 that Dean left his Amulet at some apartment, and I remembered that he didn't have it with him in the supposed future in 2014; could that be a sign that this particular future might come to pass? Joshua told Dean and Sam that God said he will no longer interfere with the affairs of Dean and Sam an he won't try to end the apocalypse, for he said that he has intervened too much, therefore that only Entity besides God who can defeat Lucifer is Michael. Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 5th 2010 (UTC)


When u get a chance u really should check out my User Page, I just recently updated it, IT"S SOOO AWESOME!!

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 9th 2010 (UTC)


Just yesterday my younger brother created an account on this Wiki. His User name is "Dean Winchester", I was curious if you could monitor his edits. He unknowingly creates pages and posts information on them that already exists. For Example, he created the page titled Sam's Powers, this is clearly a form of Wiki-duplication, the info that he put on this page already exists on the page Sam Winchester.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 13th 2010 (UTC)


Do you think that Raphael will appear for a second time in Season 5?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 25th 2010 (UTC)


I do think it's a high possibility that we won't see him again ('Sniff'). My reasoning for is: there is only 2-3 episodes left in Season 5, and he's made one physical appearance in the entire fifth season; from this, you can draw many different conclusions. But hey, you never know, he might make an appearance in the last or second to last episode.

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 26th 2010 (UTC)


The user Learn to Swim has been adjusting/adding many information concerning the Four Horsemen. I completely understand that his or her (User:Learn to Swim) consistent edits helps this Wiki tremendously. However, I've come across a possible problem:

This particular user added a page titled Lucifer's Cage. I looked at the page in its entirety, and it seems as if this particular info should be documented on the "already existing page" titled St. Mary's Convent... any helpful thoughts and or suggestions?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, APRIL 27th 2010 (UTC)


Please send me your opinion on the case documented above.


The convent itself isn't where Lucifer was, though. It's just one place the cage could be opened to let Lucifer out. —EllieMurasaki 20:42, 27 April 2010 (UTC)


I just spotted a HUGE spoiler on the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse page; User:Rvn1966 posted this spoiler (pic spoiler). Should I remove the pic from the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse page? Also, this particular user added an Un-Aired episode title to the Horsemen page (this particular episode has yet to air in the U.S.)

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MAY 4th 2010 (UTC)


I removed some spoilers from the Horsemen page along with the Death page.

Never mind. I've already taken care of it, no worries. On a side-note - Please monitor User:Rvn1966 edits.


Do you think it would be against Wik- addikit (spelling of this word could be slightly off) if I put a Section coded as Powers and Abilities under God's page? It was clearly stated by the angel named Joshua that God known’s everything via Omniscient. However, he has yet to make an actual appearance in Supernatural, so should I wait, or what would you suggest?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MAY 5th 2010 (UTC)



I'm sorry about my spoiler adds.I did't notice that Super-wiki is spoiler free.

I will be more attentive. :)

Thanks for the informations.

Darko 10.20 P.M., May 8th 2010 (UTC)



I noticed that user Lord nastrond posted Death's powers on Death's page. Don't we generally post these types of things on the broader pages? For example: Angel powers are posted on Angel Lore, Horsemen powers are posted on Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

I removed this info. However, Lord nastrond just recently revised my edit by re-posting his previous edit. Should I leave this be, or what should I do about this?

Later Missy

Anderson Writer, MAY 8th 2010 (UTC)


The user Lord nastrond is still causing Wiki related problems. I have noticed that some of his or her edits are un-canonical. Such as: Under the page Angel Lore, Lord nastrond posted that God can kill any angel he wishes; to me, this is not Canon, as it has yet to be stated in the show. He or she seems to be posting info related to other Mythological theories; one being that God can do what he wishes. But as Death said: "God can be reaped." In this show, God may have limits.

I would greatly appreciate it if you would assist me in fixing this problem. Thanks in advance.



im sorry if some of my editations have caused you or other contributors any problems. im not still entirely sure of the rules of editing, and i have a poor memory about what is considered canon. and i thank you greatly for showing me my errors and doing me the courtesy of explaining these to me in a polite fashion. please if i unintentionally create further problems dont hestitate to illustate the error to me

thank you for your time and consideration :)

- Lord Nastrond

My Theory

Wouldn't Death be the Head of the Four Horsemen? Even in Supernatural, Death has verbalized his potential. His capabilities seem to far surpass the power of his horsemen siblings (War, Famine and Pestilence). Apparently, the human mind cannot fully calculate nor process Death's "true" power. Death brought this fact to the table when he addressed it to Dean Winchester. Because this is only in theory, I am reluctant to post this onto his occupation section. Should I add this (Head Horsemen) to his Occupation section?


Anderson Writer, MAY 13th 2010 (UTC)

I can't believe that the 22nd episode is already here. Can't wait till tonight. Are you excited? I hope they fit Raphael + Michael in 5x22. To me, it would be weird if they didn't show Raphael in the Season 5 Finale (Raphael is still alive; although his is still bound to the Holy Fire Circle). As for Michael, he did find his vessel (Adam). So technically, Lucifer and Michael could still fight each other. The writers had to have had an explicit reason for using Adam to contain Michael. Couldn't Michael fight Lucifer in Adam's body and Lucifer fight Michael in Nick's body?


Anderson Writer, MAY 13th 2010 (UTC)

I noticed you deleted the Sam/Lucifer page because it's "not a fanfic pairing". What's that supposed to mean in this context? Because it's not like there's a shortage of Sam/Lucifer fic. —EllieMurasaki 17:34, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I have a question for you regarding the articles Cupid and Cherub. I would like to combine them into 'Cherub' and delete 'Cupid' on the grounds that they contain essentially the same information. What would be your opinion on that change? Thank you, MisterGlass 13:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


Hello Missyjack,

Sorry to bother you with such a trivial issue, but we have a small problem. It seems a disgruntled user, EllieMurasaki, is refusing to believe and accept canonical information and quotes from the show in an attempt to disprove the apparent fact that Lucifer's Cage is located in the deepest part of Hell. It's not just I either that has noted the ridiculous nature of her statements and tendency to wander off topic when the argument is not coming down in her favor. I would like to request that you please speak to her and ask her to please stop trying to alter the page to discount the information that has already been presented and to accept that it has indeed been said that Lucifer's Cage is in Hell. She is inciting an edit war over the topic and I feel that it's only going to escalate, therefore I am here to request your help in defusing the situation and help her to see reason. I even attempted a compromise language to say that it is "implied" that it is in Hell, yet she refuses to let the issue lay at that. If you could help in this instance, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Lucifer1987 00:39, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm not rehashing the debate on the Lucifer's Cage talk page. Suffice it to say: I don't think statements made by show creators are necessarily show canon, any more than I think the comics and novels are necessarily show canon; I think what the show demonstrates as factual within showverse (case in point, minor angels such as Castiel can get in and out of hell with great ease compared to what it takes to get archangels in and out of the cage) trumps everything the characters say on the matter; I think the compromise position is saying that the cage may be in hell but may also not be. —EllieMurasaki 00:50, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Yet comments in the show itself don't seem to resonate with you, or you are simply trying to pretend they don't exist. Either way it seems you are simply refusing in bad faith to accept that it has indeed been said in the show itself, aside from Sera Gamble's confirmation. It is OBVIOUSLY in Hell, as said by NUMEROUS characters (even Lucifer himself!), yet EllieMurasaki refuses to acknowledge those confirmations. Lucifer1987 00:52, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Lucifer's Cage/Harassment from User:EllieMurasaki

MissyJack, I would like to give you examples of evidence that clearly show that Lucifer's Cage is indeed in Hell and that the knowledge of this should not be removed from the page based upon one biased person's disbelief:

  1. Anna Milton states that "Lilith is trying to break the 66 Seals to free Lucifer from Hell" in "I Know What You Did Last Summer".
  2. Lucifer states in "The End" that "....for that God had Michael cast me into Hell."
  3. Dean states in "Swan Song" that "Your (Sam's) Hell is gonna make my tour look like Graceland."
  4. Sam states in "Exile on Main Street" to Dean ".....why would I want to think about Hell?" when questioned about his time in Lucifer's Cage.

Each of these is crystal clear in their implication: Lucifer's Cage is located in Hell, and each of these is incontrivertibly canon. Even non-canonically, Sera Gamble has also stated that the Cage is located in the deepest part of Hell, and she is the one now in charge of the show. Given all this evidence, amongst other pieces, I highly suggest you restore this information to the page and speak to EllieMurasaki about leaving the page alone from now on, as she has given no evidence to back up her disbelief and has attempted to repeatedly ignore all this evidence to the contrary.

On another note, EllieMurasaki has been harassing me on my talk page and has been editing in bad faith merely to stir up trouble in my opinion. I would ask that you please rebuke her and tell her to keep antagonistic and narcissistic comments off my talk page. You can view the harassment here.

Verbatim: "Point the first: I gave you lots of evidence, none of which relied on taking the word of characters who have been repeatedly shown to be, if not unreliable narrators, then narrators whose reliability cannot be taken for a given. You ignored the lot of it. Point the second: Do you have a single thing on your contributions page that doesn't relate to this? Point the third: I won. —EllieMurasaki 02:08, 1 November 2010 (UTC)"

In reality, she gave no real evidence to support her position, she constantly denies that any evidence exists within the show proving the Cage is in Hell, and she has not convinced even a single person of her position as a result. I believe the "I won." statement above proves that she has been editing in bad faith merely to stir up edit wars, and I believe something needs to be done about it.

Lucifer1987 20:40, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

If Lucifer1987 shuts up, I will. And given that Lucifer1987 has made precisely three edits anywhere on the site not relating to this issue (I checked) and I've made, well, more, somehow I suspect if anybody's editing in bad faith, it's not me. —EllieMurasaki 21:51, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

And I say that EllieMurasaki is merely upset that someone has stood up to her and is merely seeking to stir up trouble, and her outrageous statements, as shown above, prove that she has not been acting in good faith. She is the one that has opened her trap and is the one that will not "shut up" about a foregone conclusion. She has not even given a response to the information posted above here, which again proves she has no real intent upon acknowledging that she is wrong in her assessments. If she would "shut up" herself, there would be no issue at all because nobody else has questioned such an obvious fact but she. Lucifer's Cage is located in Hell, it's been said numerous times (some of them shown above), and EllieMurasaki has proven herself untrustworthy in this issue as she has made it perfectly clear that she's only out to "win" an argument with no regard to facts or truth. And her bigoted, discriminatory stance against new users to the site is very obvious in her stalking of my contributions page, as she seeks only to bolster her own discredited stance and distract from the fact that I have proven her wrong. I'm afraid she is under the delusion that simply being here longer "entitles" her to change anything she wants on here even if what she is doing is false and ignores clear facts. Simply being here longer does not give an "entitlement" of anything in my book nor does it make EllieMurasaki any better than I or any of the other new users here that are simply trying to make sure we have the full and complete facts here on this site, facts that EllieMurasaki wishes to ignore simply b/c she refuses to listen to reason.
I challenge you, EllieMurasaki, to tell me how the quotes posted above do not constitute a very clear, canonical, in-show indication that Lucifer's Cage is located in Hell. You tell me how you can possibly say that there is no evidence in the show itself to prove this, when I have shown you otherwise several times. I am of the mind that these quotes alone, amongst others, discredits your stubborn disbelief, and there have been other users that have agreed with me. Lucifer1987 16:16, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Rolls eyes and claps hands: You see, MissyJack? EllieMurasaki offers no legitimate, coherent explanation for her disbelief of these facts, and she has no response to them. I believe I have proven my point that she has not edited nor argued in good faith as she cannot even mount a credible defense of her actions and cannot even offer a response to point-blank evidence contradicting her. If EllieMurasaki had any credible argument, she would offer some legitimate evidence as to why she thinks the Cage is not located in Hell and why her evidence should override the quotes of a multitude of characters within the show itself. She has no evidence and no case. Lucifer1987 18:33, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Lucifer%27s_Cage&diff=39433&oldid=39431 Also, http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Lucifer%27s_Cage&diff=40041&oldid=39941EllieMurasaki 18:42, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
More of the same tired, worn-out disbelief....is that really all you have to offer? It's laughable, EllieMurasaki, that you think your own disbelief alone is enough to override in-show content. All you have offered is your personal, unfounded doubts that have no legitimacy. You offered no real evidence on the talk page listed above, and you have offered no credible defense of your actions here. Why? Because you failed to do so on the talk page for Lucifer's Cage, and other users agreed that you failed. You have failed to offer any real justification here beyond trying to redirect to an old forum in which you failed to make your case. That is not enough I'm afraid.
I will ask once again: Tell me exactly why in-show quotes from the characters does not prove the Cage's location? What do you have in hand that overrides those quotes? What in-show content do you possess that proves the Cage is not in Hell? There are a multitude of quotes proving it is in fact in Hell, but you have thus far failed to field even a single piece of in-show evidence to prove it is not. It's actually a very simple request, one that you have been asked repeatedly to fulfill and have thus far failed to accomplish. Lucifer1987 18:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Comparing Dean's entry and exit of hell with Lucifer's entry and exit of the cage isn't in-show evidence? Huh. I have better things to do than argue with people who don't know what 'in-show' means. (Also, Dean might be wrong when he says Sam's trip into the cage will involve Sam being in hell. Or he might be lying. He's done both before.) —EllieMurasaki 18:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....This is cracking me up. "Might be wrong", "Might be lying", "Dean's and Lucifer's entry", "if", "could", "maybe".....In other words, you have no real proof beyond your personal doubts. You have no real answer to the above quotes, and I think that Lucifer (whose cage this is) and Sam, who have both been there, would know better than you would of the Cage's location, and both have said it is in Hell. So you're telling me that Anna, Lucifer, Dean and Sam were ALL lying, all at separate times and across two seasons? Sorry, don't buy it due to the ridiculous nature of that assertion. If we went by your logic, we'd have no information we could go off of for the pages on this wiki. By your logic, we cannot take anything that's said on the show to be true at all, and that's a ludicrous and laughable view. That's not enough I'm afraid EllieMurasaki. Who ever said that the entry to Hell and the entry to Lucifer's Cage were ever the same thing, when they obviously are different? The point here is that the Cage is located down in the depths of Hell and has a separate entrance. So once again, where is your evidence that this is not the case? Real evidence, please, and not just unfounded doubting. Lucifer1987 18:56, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Seriously do you both realise how ridiculous this is to be arguing over? The next person to comment on Lucifer's Cage anywhere on the Wiki will be banned for a week. --Missyjack 19:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


Need to ban that user account immediately, it tried to upload porn to the images on the homepage. Should guard those images to protect against editing asap.Askpeeves1 05:48, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

24 hr rule

Hey missyjack, I noticed Anderson54 did some edits on the Crowley page among other ones, and I thought it was your policy that episode edits/updates needed to wait 24 hours (so 7pm on Saturday) no?

Plz let me know what the policy is, thanks! Askpeeves1 05:31, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

"him or her"

Given Meg just essentially destroyed the King of Hell, and that her alignment with the YED and Lucifer were the strongest of the surviving demons left on the show, how could the fact that she is probably the next "King of Hell" not be proper introductory material for Meg?

"After being hunted by Crowley, then King of Hell after Lucifer's reimprisonment, she decides to enlist the Winchester's help in killing Crowley because, as Sam states, it was either "him or her."6.10 Caged Heat"

How is that not, essentially, spot-on? Askpeeves1 21:03, 6 December 2010 (UTC) --EllieMurasaki 03:19, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Insert non-formatted text here --EllieMurasaki 02:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Devil's gate in Wyoming

So you deleted what I added because it was never mentioned anything about Lilith but on Season 4 episode 22 with the audio Commentary Eric Kripke mentioned the reason it was open so Lilith could be released. Watched it came from Eric himself, it may not have been mentioned on the show but it's completley canon P. Baxter 06:22, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Harassment From EllieMurasaki

Forgive me for bothering you with this, but EllieMurasaki is harassing me on my talk page, and I would like something done about it. She has made snide and rude comments that have no place on my page, and I would like her to be banned from editing on my talk page. Lucifer1987 07:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Bobby's Floor plans, etc.

Hey there! Just wanted to let you know that I've sent you the notes for the floor plan for the first level that I'd sent to you earlier. Sorry, it took longer than I anticipated! Busy, busy weekend! Thanks again, hope you're well. AparnaBrielle 20:42, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Hey hun, more spam - for you to check out over here. AparnaBrielle 03:07, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Understood and agreed! I just ask that next time, instead of people replacing links (which irritates me because I spent a long time cross-checking), that they just add to. Would make things easier. AparnaBrielle 22:26, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Merging pages

Hi there! Thank you for the welcome. Apologies for the mis-placed link; I'm working on merging/moving redundant information between 4.20 and Jimmy Novak. Thanks for the catch, and if you have any suggestions I'd love to hear them! --angele-dei 14:34, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Spam pages

I saw that you were cleaning up more, I noticed a few that you may have accidentally missed:

-- sulfur 13:59, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Came across some more by accident:

In fact, almost every page on this list is a spam page. Ew. -- sulfur 14:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)